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So it makes more sense to use low resistance wire and an additional resistor than just using cheaper wire that comes up with the same resistance as thicker wire plus resistor?
I find good wire better than wire + resistor so no, these are not perfectly equivalent.

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I want what comes out of my amplifiers to be fed without issues or changes to my speakers.
Anything else is nonsense.
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Then move your amps to where the speakers are and use as short a wire as possible. I don't know what Dave would do under those circumstances, use fuse wire maybe?
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Nichrome wire.
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Then move your amps to where the speakers are and use as short a wire as possible. I don't know what Dave would do under those circumstances, use fuse wire maybe?

Yes, my main system has about 8 to 10 feet of 16 gauge zip wire to each speaker.
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In any case, good speaker designers must consider their cabinets being driven from a Voltage source (your average amplifier out there) plus, say, 0.1 or 0.2 ohms (cable and terminal resistance) in series.
And should not be rendered unusable by, say, 0.5 ohm

Which I bet they do, simply being realistic and designing stuff to be actually *used* in, say, a Living Room or equivalent.

Stuff which only works in a Lab environment but has problems anywhere else does not have much future.
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Is this DIYaudio or an online workshop for engineers designing audio gear for Wal Mart?
Not sure whatīs your point.

Do you mean speakers should be designed to be used with superconductor cables only?

Or only viable speakers are active ones with speaker terminals soldered straight to transistor emitters?

Maybe you didnīt notice there is a difference between armchair designers, based *only* on Simulation and its World of Oz "ideal components", and REAL Designers, who must meet mutually conflicting: Specs - Cost - Deadlines - Suppliers - Personnel - Logistics - etc.

By the way, thereīs a dime a dozen of the first kind and the real ones are as rare as henīs teet.
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My point is that if a person builds a system that doesn't need to interact with other systems there is no need to consider these other systems and accepted standards for interaction.

A practical example for the abstract challenged: It's perfectly ok to design and build a source with an output level of 35Vpp and build the rest of the system to work with that in your home. It doesn't make sense to do that in a commercial product that will be connected into a system built to accept a 1.7Vpp signal.

Thats all.
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