Need Comment For Mundorf M-Lytic AG caps

[TomC]

I am interesting for the Mundorf M-Lytic AG (10000uf 63v) for replacement my old Sprague 81D (6800uf 63v) on my PSU.

Would anyone can tell me what is the sonic quality different in between Mundorf M-Lytic AG and Sprague 81D?

Some people said the Mundorf M-Lytic AG sound bright. It is ture?

I like the sound transperant with a good dynamic.

Hope someone here can help me to find out the best caps which may suitable for my need.

Thank you,


Tom

 

[merlin el mago]

I used the same Mundorf compared vs Black Gates both 10.000uF 63V and prefered the Mundorf but I can't compared vs Sprague 81D.

 

[TomC]

Hello Merlin,

Thank you for your comment. Would you please tell me the way of sound for Mundorf M-Lytic AG?

Thank you,

 

[merlin el mago]

Hello Tom

For me is the best Lytic actual on production cap. It's difficult to describe it: voices are very good, full bass & delicate treble, a clear winner.

Cheers
Felipe

 

[AndrewT]

In the last couple of years my opinion on smoothing caps has changed a little bit.

I am coming to the conclusion that any commercial electrolytic can do as the first stage smoothing.
The local decoupling handles all the MF and HF current demands.
This leaves the smoothing as just a recharging energy source for the local decoupling.

Now the potentially controversial point of view, the change in my thinking:
An amplifier that responds by "sounding different" by changing the manufacturer of the same value smoothing capacitors has decoupling that is not working properly.
It is either in the wrong place, or the wrong values, or the wrong cap types, or a combination there off.

If that extreme opinion is valid, then it points to "sort the decoupling" rather than play with the smoothing manufacturer.

 

[merlin el mago]

Nobody spokes for an amplifier.

 

[Walkalone]

Is M-lytic HC better than any caps, like Epcos sikorel B41550, Rifa PEH169?
I'm mean about p/p...
They're very expensive caps, far away other electrolytic caps.

 

[Welcome]

I would go with a reputable manufacturer instead, like Panasonic, Nichicon, Samwha, Chemicon, etc. Mundorf seems to be a hobbyist company preying on audiophiles with fancy talk. All without the expertise of the big boys.

 

[Morfeus]

I would go with a reputable manufacturer instead, like Panasonic, Nichicon, Samwha, Chemicon, etc. Mundorf seems to be a hobbyist company preying on audiophiles with fancy talk. All without the expertise of the big boys.

Well, not true. While I am not a fan of Mundorf at all as I find the caps way overpriced, one has to note that one of the oldest and largest capacitor factories in Germany produces the caps for them.

 

[lduarte1973]

I replaced nichicons with the mundorfs AG and they sound much better , more transparent , neutral
while the nichicons had a darker sound

 

[AndrewT]

I replaced nichicons with the mundorfs AG and they sound much better , more transparent , neutral
while the nichicons had a darker sound

If you want to believe me, then maybe this is the sign telling you to sort the local decoupling?

 

[Bixbacon]

An amplifier that responds by "sounding different" by changing the manufacturer of the same value smoothing capacitors has decoupling that is not working properly.
It is either in the wrong place, or the wrong values, or the wrong cap types, or a combination there off.

Makes sense to me.

 

[lduarte1973]

If you want to believe me, then maybe this is the sign telling you to sort the local decoupling?

I´ll recomend that to the Arcam guys

 

[merlin el mago]

These bad guys audiophile engineers.

 

[AndrewT]

I´ll recomend that to the Arcam guys

Why only Arcam?
If you agree that local decoupling is that important, then write to all manufacturers and tell them.

 

[lduarte1973]

i had to replace the Supply capacitors in 2 arcam delta 290 , i use them in mono config as midbass amps , one had nichicon , the other some unknown brand , they sounded uneven. So i decided to try the mundorfs

 

[100decibels]

Interesting, i need to recap my two Linn Klout soon and the best will be these Mundorfs.
But i need 16 of them, 436 USD and Nichicon will cost only 60 USD. Yakes!
Original capacitors have LINN engraved in gold letters. Somebody wants to buy a kidney?

 

[ticktock]

Do ESR measurements first before spending money on new caps.
Hard to tell about the current condition without measuring - unless they obviously leak.

 

[rhythmsandy]

check these caps.. http://www.alconelectronics.com/images/pdf/PDF_NEW/PG-6DI_NEW.pdf

They have very similar specs of Mundorf and even the can looks very similar. When I used this the sound lost its attack. It was all smooth. I didnt understand why was this happening. Switched back to normal caps. The Alcon had good esr and esl ratings very close to Mundorf and now I am bit worried that even Mundorf sounds like alcon or do i need to use brighter sounding decoupling caps like either Muse or Cerafine?

 

[Brachy]

I replaced Panasonic FM 2200uF/35v with Mundorf AG 4700uF/40v for pre-amplifier power cap. The sonic improvement is very obvious and very positive. Then, the power-amplifier's power cap were replaced from ELNA 10000uF/63v to Mundord AG 10000uF/63v. The sound quality keep the same good way, more richness, more 3D sensation, more silk-like and less hardness. Very good power cap!