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Old 2nd December 2020, 01:25 PM   #1
trevortex is offline trevortex
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Hi everyone,
I am a newbie and ready to buy a DJ controller but my budget is low so I am looking for a cheap controller. I read an article on the best DJ controller under 500 but am confused between Pioneer DDJ and Numark MixTrack. I really like both of them. Can someone guide me as to which of the two is best?
Thank you so much!
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Old 2nd December 2020, 01:48 PM   #2
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A lot of it will come down to the software you want to use. The pioneer will work with rekordbox while the Numark MixTrack works with VirtualDJ/Traktor.
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Old 2nd December 2020, 11:18 PM   #3
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The pioneer will work with rekordbox
It will work also with VirtualDJ or Traktor, but perhaps You'll have to create the mappings if there isn't one already created. You will need the MIDI chart as it makes it much simpler.

I own a Numark Mixtrack Express & I find it rubbish (repaired two or three times) compared to the other also owned Pioneer Consoles DJ-R1, SB2;SB3; Ergo.
If You want to party, Numark is OK, but for real DJ stuff go for the Pioneer.
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Old 2nd December 2020, 11:54 PM   #4
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Hi everyone,
I am a newbie and ready to buy a DJ controller but my budget is low so I am looking for a cheap controller. I read an article on the best DJ controller under 500 but am confused between Pioneer DDJ and Numark MixTrack. I really like both of them. Can someone guide me as to which of the two is best?
Thank you so much!

There’s an old saying “buy once, cry once”. Before spending any $ on DJ gear in this economic environment, suggest you rent a couple of them within your price range for the weekend and try them out. The one you feel most comfortable to should be your purchase.
It also will help you decide if dj’n is what you want to do - whether it’s for fun or business. If the latter, it can quickly become a money pit UNLESS...you’ll build a business plan.
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Old 4th December 2020, 06:19 AM   #5
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Also definitely search for your used DJ gear re-sales, bought my own controller used 3-4 years ago and still works fine, for -70% of the original price.



And as kip said it depends on the program you wish to use, I am currently using Traktor + Serato DJ PRO. Other than that, all controllers are pretty much the same, more expensive ones will have a less cheap/plastic feel to them though.


From my experience the only real difference between traktor and serato (I've been using serato for a few weeks now, not an expert); Traktor analyzes things quite decently, sync works flawlessy most of the time. Great for beginners to start mixing techno/house. Serato doesnt really know how to analyze beatgrids and doesn't know how to sync at all. All the sync does is match the bpm on serato, it would probably work if I set the beatgrids myself on every single song but I am not keen on doing that to my whole library. Other than that, as with most controllers and softwares, not too many differences between them. And that doesnt mean serato is bad, it gave me the motivation to start learning how to beatmatch by ear when I couldnt just sync every song flawlessy together, which I guess everyone should learn eventually.


It could of course be beneficial to use Pioneer gear with recordbox, so if/when the time comes to move over to CDJ's, you'll be a bit more familiar with the gear. But again, since everything is pretty much the same ****, you shouldnt have problems moving there anyways no matter what gear you use

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Old 4th December 2020, 12:22 PM   #6
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kind of related has anyone tried MIXX?
Mixxx - Free DJ Mixing Software App
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Old 4th December 2020, 07:43 PM   #7
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I've used Mixxx. For what it is, (as in free), it's outstanding. I mainly use Cross (audio and video), sometimes Serato (audio only). I can highly recommend it. It may not look as polished as others (in fact, I sometimes think it looks like an old program running in DOS!), but that doesn't worry me.
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Old 4th December 2020, 08:11 PM   #8
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Does Mixx actually work with more advanced controllers, like the Numark NS7? I have a buddy that’s been bugging me to move all my stuff over to Linux. And I’d really love to get rid of Winblows, and pay as you go Office, be able to operate without an internet connection all the time, and to continue to use my old perfectly good PC hardware. I sort-of got my old mini Hercules controller to work with Mixx, but it was still better on my old winXP box. I haven’t tried in a couple years now.
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Old 11th December 2020, 02:37 AM   #9
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Do not buy used unless this will be a hobby, I've been doing this since 1977 and have 2 controllers and also vinyl system too. My friend that Dj's with me sometimes bought about 5 controllers from used market and a few times there's s glitch in the controller now he has to mix on his cellphone. LOL its not funny but he never listens to me. Its embarrassing trying to fix this on a full dance floor having a good time. Don't buy USED!
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Old 13th December 2020, 11:05 AM   #10
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Absolutely nothing wrong with buying used gear. If you dont know what you are buying, maybe dont, but there is plenty of full working gear being sold. Always ask the seller questions & try it before buying, but there are plenty of bedroom djs selling perfectly fine gear that has never even left their house.

Of course there are the same risks that are present no matter what it is that you are buying used, so you could argue you should never buy anything at all if its used, but do your research and wont be stupid about it youll come out fine. Maybe buying 5 broken items in a row says more about the buyer than the sellers?


Venues will usually have their own gear anyways, of it is a party a lot of people will bring their own gear that you can surely use if you ask, but if youve bought a controller for starting out youll notice if theres something wrong with it before a gig anyways.
And if you are just starting out, no reason to spend 600$+ on a brand new controller that you are not yet sure about, but if you bought the same (and fully working) controller for 200$ it would be less costly to re-sell it and try another one. Of course you need to be a little patient on not jumping on the first and cheapest controller of the model that you want, wait a bit to get perhaps a year or two old models that havent seen too many gigs/never left their home. They'll be a bit more expensive than the heavily used ones, as can be expected.


Sometimes they are easy to repair aswell. This year the headphones jack broke from my Traktor S4mk1 (I think it retailed for ~700-800? Bought it 175$ early 2017), it was giving audio only to the left ear. Even if it hadnt been repaired, I think it wouldve been worth for the price I paid and the time I used it. But a friend of mine took it apart and resolded the connectors on the electronic board for the headphone jack & it started working again. It was a ~15 minute job taking it apart, resolding it, and putting it back together. Now that I watched him do it, I could do it myself. Using isoproly alcohol that is meant for cleaning electronics is also advised for keeping them working for as long as possible.

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