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U2 Live in Brisbane Horrible sound quality
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Old 13th November 2019, 06:48 AM   #1
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Did anybody see U2 in Brisbane last night ?


I forked out almost 1200 Au bucks for me , my wife and a friend, but when the support act Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds started playing I was totally shocked about the sound quality ! It was loud , but totally mistuned , the brass section didn't come through , only the trombone , all detail was lost , anything on the video screen , drumsticks hitting the cymbals or anything else, was not present in the sound the bass was boomy and uncontrolled and A LOT of echo ! Seen Phil Collins a couple of months ago in the same Suncorp venue and the sound was perfect !
OK endured my ear torture for about 1.5 hours then U2 started . Great , Sound was a bit better , but still VERY BAD . The so important bass by Adam Clayton was only present in a mushy resonance . All I could hear was a bad tuned PA and lots of compression from the about 70 stacked line array units all over the stadium .
I walked out after an hour or so , very disappointed ! My ears couldn't cope anymore !


Please explain what happened here you PA guys .


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Old 13th November 2019, 08:30 AM   #2
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That sounds like an unqualified sound engineer to me.
I know of a guy near me who is a sheet steel worker and all the mid range in his ears is gone. I set the sound up with a punchy chest thumping kick drum and bass with a good clear sound on symbols and overhead, vocals etc. He comes along and because he can't hear mid range, winds the mids right up and the limiters kick in, it gives the band a muddy awful sound.
Probably the same reason.
I would complain to the vendor and see what happens. If you say you are really disappointed without jumping up and down too much, you may get some sort of a refund.
One of those things I fear.
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Old 13th November 2019, 10:11 AM   #3
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If it was LOUD, you might find quality hearing protection would make the sound much cleaner. Etymotics or ACS Pro17 are a great choice and will improve your experience dramatically. The ear overloads at high levels and the distortion becomes overwhelming. You might be surprised just how good some of these PAs can sound when you turn them down a bit. Looking after your hearing at the same time is an extremely valuable side benefit. I've not exposed my unprotected ears to any live amplified music in more than 20 years.
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Old 13th November 2019, 10:55 AM   #4
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I've given up on large venue sound .

Even when some band I like performs,

I won't go .....
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Old 13th November 2019, 05:07 PM   #5
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"all detail lost" "about 70 stacked line array units all over the stadium"

Reads like a comb filtering fiasco.

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And these 4 clips sound like it; the mids are unclear, unintelligible, hard to hear what they are singing even though you know the lyrics. Like you hear half of the sound from far away.



To bad humanity seems to lose it's ability to setup speakers; here on the other side of the world, it is sadly no better. Even more sad is that most people don't seem to care.

And if I mention to people responsible for the sound at local venues, clubs, festivals, etc that there is room for improvement, they are often offended and don't bother listening to me or give me a call to fix their sound free of charge.

It is seldom the quality of the speakers, but how they are used / set up which is the problem.

Ego problems seems to be a root cause for crappy sound.


In small PA the very common setup left and right tops on poles above 2 subs is almost always the worst setup possible (unless they are 20 meter or more apart, outdoors), but it looks good....... and everybody does it........ and nobody complains.

People don't care and sorry to write this, but most people probably don't even know what care is/ really means.

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Old 14th November 2019, 05:00 AM   #6
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If the above u-tube videos are representative of the sound I can say that is far from the worst arena sound I have heard.



Rens were you seated in the same place when you saw Phil Collins?


This is "The Problem" with large scale line arrays as deployed in big arenas, because they use the constructive and destructive interference from all those drivers to deliver a consistent SPL to the vast majority of seats there are going to be listening positions where intelligibility is just terrible. Move a few inches or feet up or down or side to side.. depending how far away from an array the position is and you get a totally different experience.
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I saw them in 1991 at RFK Stadium, Washington D.C. and thought the audio quality was decent, considering this is a [American] football stadium with the acoustics of a toilet bowl It was summer, but rainy and drizzly so they probably felt right at home.
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