I quite like my:
logic system is8 - sensitive, needs low noise preamps and amps. else you hear the hiss! good sound. yum. quite fond of them
martin ccd6 - yum, need to play with it more, as i got them recently. quite wide dispersion.
Sonance Mariner i like a lot, more than the small kef outdoor speaker. got them with kef speakers as a bundle when i went to try and buy the kef speakers. supprise find, very good one
didnt know about them before. good bass for such small things.
extron SI 28 very good 2rd hand price for this size of speaker. not too heavy thx to plastic case. not bad, not that bassy, seams ok for mids, treble. i need to play with it more. dont regret getting it. they where new in box, unused. left over from a install job i guess.
all 2rd for good price searched ebay over the years.
rcf 4 or 5inch... i forget. got them for a steel. £20 each. new in box for 4x. good mids, treble. needs sub for lows.
dear me... quite a lot... well i plan to do immersive surround sound stuff with them all
a good condition mackie bandpass sub for £40, the amp was a lot more expensive to power it. for home use, it shakes the china in the display cabinet. not so good outdoors... really designed for indoors me thinks
logic system is8 - sensitive, needs low noise preamps and amps. else you hear the hiss! good sound. yum. quite fond of them
martin ccd6 - yum, need to play with it more, as i got them recently. quite wide dispersion.
Sonance Mariner i like a lot, more than the small kef outdoor speaker. got them with kef speakers as a bundle when i went to try and buy the kef speakers. supprise find, very good one
didnt know about them before. good bass for such small things.extron SI 28 very good 2rd hand price for this size of speaker. not too heavy thx to plastic case. not bad, not that bassy, seams ok for mids, treble. i need to play with it more. dont regret getting it. they where new in box, unused
. left over from a install job i guess.all 2rd for good price
searched ebay over the years.rcf 4 or 5inch... i forget. got them for a steel. £20 each. new in box for 4x
. good mids, treble. needs sub for lows.dear me... quite a lot... well i plan to do immersive surround sound stuff with them all
a good condition mackie bandpass sub for £40, the amp was a lot more expensive to power it. for home use, it shakes the china in the display cabinet
. not so good outdoors... really designed for indoors me thinks
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Interesting thread. I do like a good PA speaker for the home, I enjoy the dynamics and speed.
My two main speakers in my listening room at home are Tannoy type 2062 8" in custom built enclosures, and the incredible JBL Studio 580 that shares its 2414H-1 compression driver with the EON series of PA speakers and others.
I don't have any low powered amps, but both pairs of speakers are efficient and easy to drive. Maybe one day I'll have a low powered tube amp. My main amp is a Yamaha P2200 that just idles along.
My two main speakers in my listening room at home are Tannoy type 2062 8" in custom built enclosures, and the incredible JBL Studio 580 that shares its 2414H-1 compression driver with the EON series of PA speakers and others.
I don't have any low powered amps, but both pairs of speakers are efficient and easy to drive. Maybe one day I'll have a low powered tube amp. My main amp is a Yamaha P2200 that just idles along.
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No you're right on the diffraction part. That is one compromise I was OK with as the goal of that build was a vintage look. The soon to come grilles will be tweaked to (hopefully) eliminate the slight sibilance the diffraction introduced. However, as is they're VERY enjoyable and I'm super thrilled with the outcome.
Now to the port, there's no chuffing at all. The 2062 is a very stiff driver with very little low end extension, so it hardly moves. I'm building a pair of 12" B&C bass modules to accompany the 8" Tannoys, using an Ashly XR1001 electronic crossover and yet another Yamaha power amp.
The B&C drivers are also PA drivers, so hopefully they will keep up with the speed of the Tannoys.
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I much appreciate the input. In fact, please feel free to follow along my build thread and chime in anytime. We all stand something to learn from seasoned pros.
Build thread is over at AK, the twin sub build is next in the cue. The Tannoy build starts on page 9: Kraut's New Listening Space | Page 9 | Audiokarma Home Audio Stereo Discussion Forums
12TBX100 at 33l tuned at 56-60Hz sounds veeery fast.
Those are the drivers. I was planning to go larger in an effort to dig deeper, so I'm following B&C's recommendation of 1.4 cf / 40L tuned to 43hz.
They had suggested box build, and it was 33l @ 60Hz. Sounded fast and hard. Then I rebuilt it for 42l @ 42Hz, and it didn´t do that well.
But there is no easier way than trying if you like it...
If it sounds too boomy and slow (and the room is not the cause), then you just add something solid into the box. It will obviously lower the box volume, and increase tuning frequency too.
But there is no easier way than trying if you like it...
If it sounds too boomy and slow (and the room is not the cause), then you just add something solid into the box. It will obviously lower the box volume, and increase tuning frequency too.
I use half DIY PA speakers for personal audio system:
The boxes are from MDF from chinese speakers Boyin.
The mounted loudspeakers are A&D Audio. The filter is only for the HF driver, which is 1" and with PVC horn. The mid-bass driver is 10", 250W
I'm building a 4 channel P3A amp for them(4x100W), with DSP ADAU1701.
It will looks like this:
The boxes are from MDF from chinese speakers Boyin.
The mounted loudspeakers are A&D Audio. The filter is only for the HF driver, which is 1" and with PVC horn. The mid-bass driver is 10", 250W
I'm building a 4 channel P3A amp for them(4x100W), with DSP ADAU1701.
It will looks like this:
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Did you ever get the cms1201dc speakers? Very curious to get any feedback on them at all. Thx!
Hi!
No I did not, no information on them what-so-ever, I bought Dynaudio Excite x18 instead, I know not comparable.
Some of the caps in them will probably be changed at some point, cheap Bennic`s..
The Tannoys were to expensive as an experiment.
I also like PA speakers. So I basically have a PA system at home - all horn loaded. https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/127334-horn-system-8.html#post5946650
It is still work in progress. I am also working on a smaller 3 way with 40 Hz BR subs (RCF LF15X401) and considering going active with RCF ART7x series for the tops. The polar diagrams look great, waterfall plots clean.A lot of PA boxes are very thoroughly measured at Profesionálnà svÄ›telná a zvuková technika | PRODANCE - search for the model name and find the measurements as "měření" in Czech.
It is still work in progress. I am also working on a smaller 3 way with 40 Hz BR subs (RCF LF15X401) and considering going active with RCF ART7x series for the tops. The polar diagrams look great, waterfall plots clean.A lot of PA boxes are very thoroughly measured at Profesionálnà svÄ›telná a zvuková technika | PRODANCE - search for the model name and find the measurements as "měření" in Czech.
have used jbl eon 615 xo-ed with modified old turbosound folded horn bins powered by 3u gh class amp in my workshop. with little eq it sounded ok, but especialy where turbosound bins were playing, doubt anything hifi could produce that deep bass without loads of intermodulation distortion.
only issue eons have noisy amp.
only issue eons have noisy amp.
The main issue i have with pro audio speakers in home settings is that the enclosure is often not set for nearfield listening, and that the amps are not fit for home (lower level class D that is made to go loud and be reliable, not to sound good). But most of the quality drivers itself are very usable in home audio settings, on lower power amps. I've used a Peavy 115xt as sub for at least 10 years before i started to build my own. The amp was a old Yamaha B-4 and that worked very good actually, but not with the sound quality i have now.
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