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Old 1st January 2018, 06:12 PM   #1
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Hello,
I have Zeck PT7 amplifier and we had newyear party where I bringed my amplifier and 12" 400w rms ported car sub, friend bringed his amplifier and full range speakers.
I was very impressed by bang that my system was producing in 50m2 room.
I still need to buy fullrange speakers. Now my question is can 2 fullrange speakers produce that kind of brutal bass or will I need another amplifier and speakers or active speakers together with my sub if I want that much bass?

Thank you for help and happy new year to everyone
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Old 1st January 2018, 06:48 PM   #2
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If you want "brutal bass" a sub would probably be handy It depends really on the full range speakers you intend to use and the kind of music you like to listen to. Although, a sub is a good addition for any kind of music, it doesn't have to be brutal. Happy New Year
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Old 2nd January 2018, 07:17 AM   #3
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If you want "brutal bass" a sub would probably be handy It depends really on the full range speakers you intend to use and the kind of music you like to listen to. Although, a sub is a good addition for any kind of music, it doesn't have to be brutal. Happy New Year
Yes, I would need it for electronic genres (mainly house), and balkan (most likely you are not familiar with it, unless you live in south Europe, this is south European music, lately becoming more and more similar to house music plus it sometimes has strong basslines, I don`t like it very much to be honest but most people out here just want to hear this commercial crap and nothing else, like 70% of people here had totaly forgotten what real music is).

I will open new thread, because I also need other general info about PA systems.
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Old 2nd January 2018, 07:46 AM   #4
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I'd use a sub.
That said, a single 12" ported car sub isn't what I'd call "brutal", so you might find some good 15" tops will do what you're after. Best way to find out is to listen - a lot of DJs just run 15" full-range speakers so find a few of those and see what you think.

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Old 2nd January 2018, 07:55 AM   #5
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For off the shelf tops I would use Yamaha (DBR, DXR, DSR).
With the 15 inch version you probably don`t need a sub.
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Old 2nd January 2018, 08:40 AM   #6
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I'd use a sub.
That said, a single 12" ported car sub isn't what I'd call "brutal", so you might find some good 15" tops will do what you're after. Best way to find out is to listen - a lot of DJs just run 15" full-range speakers so find a few of those and see what you think.

Chris
Maybee I was little over reacting, but everything was rattling badly and you could realy feel the bass.
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For off the shelf tops I would use Yamaha (DBR, DXR, DSR).
With the 15 inch version you probably don`t need a sub.
Id take a look at them and see what I can find.
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Old 2nd January 2018, 08:45 AM   #8
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How about diy box build, I`ve seen that woofer longthrow boxes. I would build 2 of them and use 15" or 18" woofer in them and some tops with 12" woofers and horns?
I would need this setup for outside also and I love bass, but have tight wallet :S

What are you opinions on that boxes?
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Old 2nd January 2018, 08:52 AM   #9
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For diy:
I can recommend the Fane Sovereign 12-250TC for tops.
It is a very good sounding, cheap, good quality and high spl fullrange.
But you will need a sub to go with them.
1 or 2 of the Fane Sovereign Pro 15-600 LF should fit nicely.
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Old 2nd January 2018, 08:59 AM   #10
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For diy:
I can recommend the Fane Sovereign 12-250TC for tops.
It is a very good sounding, cheap, good quality and high spl fullrange.
But you will need a sub to go with them.
1 or 2 of the Fane Sovereign Pro 15-600 LF should fit nicely.
I would diy just sub(s), I will see what I can get (used) new it`s realy out of my budged as a student, I know that I will eventualy get something good, because I`m not in rush.
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