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Old 14th September 2015, 02:06 AM   #2041
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Default Close but no cigar...

My plans to work on and finish these speakers didn't quite work out.

I had to watch my little girl Saturday, and today I tried to get them done but ran out of 2 things...time and primer. I use a 2k primer which gives the cabs a really strong substrate, and I have 3 different colors, and of course I ran out of the black. Which is fine because I would have been really upset if I could have finished them if I'd had the time and ran out of primer.

I'll get the primer tomorrow and if I get done early enough them be finished for sure tomorrow!


Here's the progress so far....I stuffed them with "Acousta-Stuf" Acousta-Stuf Polyfill Speaker Cabinet Damping Material 5 lb. Bag

The stuff fit in the back no problem, but I had to use spray adhesive to use it in the front of the cab. I tried not to use too much because it tends to work really well, and as it use I still used a fair amount of it.


Here's the newest pics.
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Old 15th September 2015, 12:43 AM   #2042
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Default Painted...

I stayed home from work today, because my little girl got me sick, so I finished the paint work on these cabinets. I probably shouldn't have because I really feel like crap now...but the painting is done. I have to do a little wet sanding and buffing when I get the chance and then I can install the drivers and we are in business.


I'm curious, on a side note should I make a build page for these separate from this thread?

Here's what they look like so far.
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Old 15th September 2015, 07:24 AM   #2043
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The "Elsinore Project" Thread
Clausen:

Wow. Even without the final clean-up and buffing, they look very, very nice!

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Old 16th September 2015, 11:29 AM   #2044
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I'm curious, on a side note should I make a build page for these separate from this thread?

Here's what they look like so far.
Nah, leave your build documented right here. Easier for folks to keep up with.

The paint job sure did turn out nice. I guess being in the business really came in handy. Nice work indeed.

Really starting to come together now. Can't wait to see the final results.
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Old 16th September 2015, 10:41 PM   #2045
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Here's what they look like so far.
Matey... a lot of hard work.

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Old 19th September 2015, 09:19 PM   #2046
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Default Done!!!!

Well, I got home on Tuesday after the cabs were painted and decided to finish the build since it was only going to take a couple hours...10 hours later at 3am they were done...lol.


I got one cabinet all done and started on the second one and broke off the positive terminal. Odd thing is I had the exact same thing happen on the Nomex build...not too happy about that, but I was able to fix that other tweeter so I did the same thing with this one.


I removed the voice coil, and soldered a solid small gauge copper wire to the voice coil terminal. And it worked/works!


So the sound....


OMG...let me say that again...Oh MY God!!!! Wow...it's safe to say I am extremely PLEASED!

First let me talk about the detail coming from these speakers...amazing...truly amazing. And the best part is NON-fatiguing!!! Absolutely incredible.

My brother has a pair on Dunlavy's and while I haven't heard them in a few years I remember thinking "yeah these sound good, but I like my ACI Saphire III's better." There was something about them that seemed underwhelming...mostly I guess it was the lack of bass.

It is too early to say since I have only had these going for a few days and I have a toddler, what I think of the bass. I think it is because the full range sounds SO GOOD! It's almost like I can't focus my attention on the bass because how good everything else sounds and also I like a lot of classic rock which IMO really benefits from a subwoofer because of the way many tracks are recorded from that era.

Also, I used acousta stuff and it may be that I need to adjust the filling as well as maybe the port, which I cut a little long because you can cut something shorter but not longer.

I have one question about the wave guides...they stick up about 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch...is that going to matter?

Finally here's the final picks! Ignore the toys and mess please!

I had to put all my audio equipment on the floor because my existing A/V rack was too big and I have to build something else.
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Old 20th September 2015, 12:41 AM   #2047
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Bass is not a problem I have concluded!!!!!!!!
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Old 20th September 2015, 01:17 PM   #2048
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Bass is not a problem I have concluded!!!!!!!!
Of course not.

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Old 20th September 2015, 04:39 PM   #2049
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Hi Clausen,

Nice work I thaught you were building the MK5 Elsinore with 830875 Nomex speakers !

Why haven't you build the mk5 with the speakers coming from your Nomex 164 ? How does the mk6 sound compared to the Nomex mk5?
I'm still planning to build the mk5, I've got most of the crossover parts and a pair of waveguide from Joels.
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Old 20th September 2015, 06:31 PM   #2050
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Hi Clausen,

Nice work I thaught you were building the MK5 Elsinore with 830875 Nomex speakers !

Why haven't you build the mk5 with the speakers coming from your Nomex 164 ? How does the mk6 sound compared to the Nomex mk5?
I'm still planning to build the mk5, I've got most of the crossover parts and a pair of waveguide from Joels.

The fact that the SB Acoustics were not truncated was one reason, as well as as far as I understood they were supposed to be an improvement over the MK5. I realize the MK5 did not need to be recessed but I prefer them that way. I am keeping the Nomex 164, I moved them to my bed room. As far as compared to the Nomex's 164...the difference is pretty impressive.

I'd say it's huge. The Elsinore's provide a much deeper sound stage and realism is hard to describe without hearing them. I literally had tears of joy last night listening to a several sources. I recorded Imagine Dragons on the "Artists Den" a while back and that got me to buy their cd and there is one track that starts with a heavy drum intro and my jaw hit the floor...I couldn't believe it.

Then I played a few tracks from Micheal Jackson's Thriller, and then listened to Dave Brubeck's Take Five and then Miles Davis' Kind of Blue...so i have listened to a pretty good range of music already. On the 3rd track on Take Five I had tears of joy...I'm not kidding.


I could not be more pleased!!!

Thanks Joe!!!! I wish I could give you a big hug!!!

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