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Old 26th June 2020, 05:31 AM   #1
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Some of us here Iím sure have lost their ability to hear the extended frequency range that is possible with todayís drivers. So that begs the question.

How much extension on the both the low end and high end do we really need as we get older?

Mine is very limited to a range of about 60 Hz to 6,000 Hz. So is it worth really worrying about a speaker that goes from 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz, when Iíll never hear anything above 6,000 Hz even if itís in the source and carried all the way through the rest of the system.

And if thatís true, then why even worry about a multi-way when a full range driver will cover most of the range I can hear.

I tried to do a search to see if this has been discussed much before, but it didn't get me anywhere.

Anyone else thought about this? Would like to hear your comments.
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Old 26th June 2020, 06:36 AM   #2
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Having older ears myself with severe tinnitus is one ear, caused by a JBL compression driver, I still like t feel the bass.
I have tailored hearing aids for the affected ear but find it only makes the whistle more aggressive as the day progresses.
It amuses me to read specifications on amplifiers; 2 - 50kHZ +-1dB.
Useful frequency range is up to 18kHZ for even the youngest ears. Anything above that is wasted power.
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Old 26th June 2020, 06:54 AM   #3
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Even at 6kHz the dome will be different to the full range. There would be more influence in the areas of diffraction and room power even if you set them to the same response.
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Old 26th June 2020, 07:00 AM   #4
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Excellent point. That's exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks.
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Old 26th June 2020, 07:20 AM   #5
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The response errors of your ears and those of the speakers combine. So it is advisible to have speakers that are a little better than your hearig ability. And don't forget that someone with good ears might join you while listening and for those a very restricted bandwith will sound very unnatural.

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Old 26th June 2020, 07:42 AM   #6
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Mine is very limited to a range of about 60 Hz to 6,000 Hz.


On the bright side you are now perfectly qualified for cap and wire denialism


But what's with the 60Hz? What makes you think you cannot hear lower frequencies?
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Old 26th June 2020, 12:07 PM   #7
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How about keeping caps and cables out it, please?

6K limit is pretty low, you miss some warmth in the strings. I've still got about an octave on you, so I can't hear and don't care anything about the top audio octave. But top end isn't the most important hearing attribute, despite what you read so many people bragging about. What's your hearing threshold? How good is your sense of pitch, level change, distortion, direction? All of those things are important to keen hearing, young or old ears.
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Old 26th June 2020, 02:10 PM   #8
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Even though your hearing may be limited, don't you still need a decent frequency response for the complex tones (added harmonics) that effect the fundamentals timbre? How does a lopsided frequency response effect the fundamental tone?
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Old 26th June 2020, 02:24 PM   #9
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How about keeping caps and cables out it, please?

May I keep my non-inductive wirewound resistors and super oxigen free flat foil inductors ?

Oh, and those Duelund caps, for me...yes! THX!
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How about keeping it on topic?
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