JBL LX300 - Upgrading woofers vs. used JBL 406G-1

Status
This old topic is closed. If you want to reopen this topic, contact a moderator using the "Report Post" button.
I am repairing a pair of JBL LX300 made in Denmark (first 5 pictures). There are two main versions Mk1 and Mk2 and maybe a third also made in Europe. The version in the LAST picture and crossover are made in USA.
My speakers are 4 ohms versions but I believe them being of similar system impedance as the US 8 ohms nominal version (measured 4.3 vs. 5.8 ohm MK1). I ONLY have one damaged midwoofer THE OTHER IS MISSING.

Vb=14.6L/Fb=50Hz
Calculated alignments are Vb=14.6L/0.52ft3(+/-16L)/Fb=50Hz with port size (D-L) 6cm/2.36"-14.8cm/5.82".

Physical and Mounting Info:
Outside Diameter (external diam. of driver) = 184mm
Bolt Circle Diameter = 167.5mm
Number of Bolts & Size = 4 @5mm
Front Mount Cutout (internal diam. of driver) = 142mm

A serious candidate to the MK1 6.5 in. (165mm) JBL 406G-1 mid-woofer (5.8 Ohm, 90dB) is the SB Acoustics SB16PFC25-08 with the basket made of composite material.

Edit: Now I know Mk1 and Mk2 don't have the same crossover and drivers. Midwoofers are different. Alternative drivers to JBL A606 don't exist but very close with similar parameters like Davis Acoustics 17MP6GR (-2dB) and Audax HM170X2 (-1.5dB, discontinued) both 8 ohms.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20200305_194625~2.jpg
    IMG_20200305_194625~2.jpg
    734.8 KB · Views: 288
  • IMG_20200305_194606.jpg
    IMG_20200305_194606.jpg
    875.2 KB · Views: 281
  • IMG_20200305_194432~2.jpg
    IMG_20200305_194432~2.jpg
    647 KB · Views: 248
  • IMG_20200305_194416~2.jpg
    IMG_20200305_194416~2.jpg
    604.4 KB · Views: 425
  • IMG_20200305_194402~2.jpg
    IMG_20200305_194402~2.jpg
    443.8 KB · Views: 339
  • Screenshot_20200306-111912.png
    Screenshot_20200306-111912.png
    334.2 KB · Views: 529
  • Screenshot_20200306-130910.jpg
    Screenshot_20200306-130910.jpg
    132.3 KB · Views: 313
Last edited:
The crossovers in the speakers are not the same from the crossover layout published here (fig.6). Resistors and cap found in the speakers Xovers read (fig.2):
10W 3R3 ohms,+- 5%, Bennic
10W 6R8 ohms,+- 5%, Bennic
C=16uF, 100 Volts
 

Attachments

  • hfe_jbl_lx300_technical_en.pdf
    155.4 KB · Views: 150
Last edited:
JBL LX300/JBL LX300 MKII (european)

The speakers are not JBL LX300 (System Impedance 8 Ohms, Made in USA).

They are a later(?) LX300 or novel danish version "Made in Denmark, 4 ohms" similar to the model JBL LX300 MKII (european) with drivers "Made in France" and DCR values ~4.4/4.5 ohms.

Crossover is similar to the JBL LX300 MKII with the same layout but with different component values LF. parallel cap/HF. series resistor. The two versions are presented here, the #1 "diyaudio.pl_25256-JBL-LX300-MKII-jakie-głośniki" crossover and mine (#2).

As I understand at the moment the loudspeaker is designated as JBL LX300 but they are probably an earlier /or later:tongue: year JBL LX300 MKII version/type (with similar crossover and) with drivers models:
Low Freq - JBL A606
Tweeter - JBL A026TS
 

Attachments

  • 01.jpg
    01.jpg
    96.7 KB · Views: 236
  • 02.jpg
    02.jpg
    81.8 KB · Views: 132
  • 03.jpg
    03.jpg
    90.6 KB · Views: 120
  • 04.jpg
    04.jpg
    443.8 KB · Views: 518
  • 05.jpg
    05.jpg
    360.5 KB · Views: 140
  • 06.jpg
    06.jpg
    403.5 KB · Views: 151
  • 09_xover diyaudio.pl_25256-JBL-LX300-MKII-jakie-głośniki.jpg
    09_xover diyaudio.pl_25256-JBL-LX300-MKII-jakie-głośniki.jpg
    42.3 KB · Views: 162
  • 08.jpg
    08.jpg
    548.4 KB · Views: 153
  • 07.jpg
    07.jpg
    588.3 KB · Views: 155
  • 12_xover JBL LX300 MKII_2way_voltage.jpg
    12_xover JBL LX300 MKII_2way_voltage.jpg
    245.8 KB · Views: 170
Last edited:
Refoamed JBL A606 pair for JBL LX300 (Denmark model)

The JBL A606 drivers arrived from Poland. They are almost a matched pair with DCR values ~4.3/4.4 ohms, very similar between them and in a very good looking shape almost like NOS. They are probably a good professional refoam and repair work with same materials and unnoticeable details/glue. Kudos for the seller Audio-Zen @Allegro.Pl, type of "ePay" in that country.:D
I payed 62 euros, 44 euros for drivers + 18 euros for the transport for both with DHL/TNT mail across Europe and plus other small taxes, bank transfer and PayPal for mail extra costs outside Poland (~10%). Note: Transport or customs wasn't very much affected by coronavirus crisis.
The most difficult part is that you have to translate everything from polish because there isn't a second language.:eek:
The expenses of building a second crossover and choosing and buying different drivers instead of the originals would not pay the cost of the time consuming work involved.
 

Attachments

  • 22-24.jpg
    22-24.jpg
    228.9 KB · Views: 118
  • 25-26.jpg
    25-26.jpg
    185.8 KB · Views: 108
  • 27-29.jpg
    27-29.jpg
    171.8 KB · Views: 119
  • 21_price+shipment.jpg
    21_price+shipment.jpg
    167.3 KB · Views: 128
  • 20_Allegro.pl - JBL LX300, JBL A606.jpg
    20_Allegro.pl - JBL LX300, JBL A606.jpg
    78.5 KB · Views: 288
Here I got the T/S parameters for the JBL A606 (pair) and nominal specs values.
We can now simulate the original alignment Vb=14.6L/Fb=50Hz and test different alignments including speaker JBL LX 300.:)
 

Attachments

  • jbl_A606_LX 300_france_L.gif
    jbl_A606_LX 300_france_L.gif
    112.3 KB · Views: 127
  • jbl_A606_LX 300_france_R.gif
    jbl_A606_LX 300_france_R.gif
    112.9 KB · Views: 101
  • jbl_A606_physical and mounting info.gif
    jbl_A606_physical and mounting info.gif
    25.9 KB · Views: 111
  • jbl_A606_Vas_parameters_L.gif
    jbl_A606_Vas_parameters_L.gif
    128.3 KB · Views: 145
  • jbl_A606_Vas_parameters_R.gif
    jbl_A606_Vas_parameters_R.gif
    128.4 KB · Views: 115
  • nominal JBL A606 17cm.gif
    nominal JBL A606 17cm.gif
    22.6 KB · Views: 123
Status
This old topic is closed. If you want to reopen this topic, contact a moderator using the "Report Post" button.