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Old 27th August 2019, 04:50 PM   #11
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I recently asked a similar questions, and received many responses.

In the end, out of several choices for ~90dB/W midrange I ended choosing Monacor MSH 115.

I am happy with that choice and it sounds great, even running fullrange, naturally lacking in the bass register, but balanced and warm.

It's also a pretty cheap midrange, the only real price comparison was Faital 3FE22/25, 4FE32/35.


The Monacor MSH 115 cost me 35 GBP or thereabouts, so it fits in your budget
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Old 27th August 2019, 04:55 PM   #12
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i'll see monacor drivers....they are a possible choice, i forgotten them
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Old 27th August 2019, 05:53 PM   #13
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Faital 3FE22 (neo) is an underrated driver, I got a very good result here....
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Old 27th August 2019, 05:55 PM   #14
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ita flange isn't round
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Old 27th August 2019, 05:59 PM   #15
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yes true, I had my flanges 3d printed and it was a PITA actually.........

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Old 27th August 2019, 06:38 PM   #16
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which midranga 4" or 5" do you suggest
Well, based on a ~725 Hz max - 1100 Hz min XO points where they quit being point sources, then for equal power distribution: [725*1100]^0.5 = ~893 Hz mean = 34400/pi/893 = ~12.26 cm/~4.83" effective piston diameter [not frame size] and at a ~6900 Hz max HF XO it's ~4.88 cm/1.92", so not knowing what XO's you're considering I'll let you do the math to find the size theoretically required to narrow down your choices.

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Old 27th August 2019, 07:13 PM   #17
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Faital 3FE22 (neo) is an underrated driver, I got a very good result here....
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It's certainly overlooked. I overlooked it until recently when it was suggested. Most the Faital small drivers 3FE and 4FE look quite usable.

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ita flange isn't round
Neither Faital or Monacor frames are round.
For the Monacor, theres no need to recess the driver, if that is why round frames are preferable. The front frame is perhaps 1.5mm thick.

But it is small part of what put me off the Faital drivers, where flush mounting would be difficult, designed for rear panel mounting.

Monacor MSH-115 is flat stamped frame, so almost flush when surface mounted. The Faital frame looks much stronger however, and I dont know if I can make a success of rear mounting a driver yet! Though I have a few cheap drivers, with the same thick paper mounting rings.
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Old 27th August 2019, 09:37 PM   #18
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I think the 3fe22 works fine surface mounted, so no need for routing

Visaton frs8m, however, is a real pain to mount. That driver must be rear mounted on a flange and then mounted on the speaker baffle
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guys, used as midrange driver is good ?
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Old 28th August 2019, 02:03 PM   #20
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sure, but as always, it depends on what your goal is

to me, a small midrange driver seems necessity to get a good system dispersion
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