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Old 12th July 2019, 12:54 AM   #51
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RESPECT: Javad Shadzi has been very clever at routing and stacking hardwood boards into a beautiful, high performance translam cabinet. You will enjoy his threadS and construction techniques. Javad's driver selection cost more than your $200-$250 budget.

Strafi Translam FaitalPro Tower Build

From my experience, a 12" woofer + 1"CD EconoWave constructed from plywood is a great speaker for your workshop goals. Route baffle for waveguide, woofer, plus edge roundovers. If you desire BEAUTY, you could use Javad's translam construction for this EconoWave.
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Old 12th July 2019, 06:20 AM   #52
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I don't know if there's a kit for the sb17 aluminum driver with sb metal dome tweeter so maybe somebody has a link to a pre-made crossover that works with pre-designed baffle and enclosure dimensions...... Hope this helps.
For the popular SB_Acoustics aluminum cone 6.5" SB17NAC35-4 midbass and aluminum cone 1" SB26ADC-4 dome tweeter, there are a couple cabinet designs and a crossover with enough baffle-step compensation for in-room placement. You will want a slightly different crossover design for on-wall = near-wall placement.... much less baffle step compensation. The low diffraction distortion cabinet requires a few bevel cuts on a 2x thick front baffle. There is also a stepped-baffle cabinet for physical time alignment. The BW3 tweeter crossover circuit and LR4 midbass crossover circuit also produce enough phase shift speed for good flat-baffle performance.

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Old 12th July 2019, 01:12 PM   #53
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I have had a pair of Radian 5208C in my shop for some time, and have found them to be smooth and 'musical' while still projecting cleanly into the room. No harsh PA shout to my old ears. Unlike the Volt 10/2 at diysg they are a little above your budget when the Radian crossover is included.
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Old 12th July 2019, 03:08 PM   #54
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not sure if it matters… But I mostly listen to old country, blues, classic rock, stuff like that but have been known to crank up the volume on some of the modern stuff … I’m a big steel panther fan ( don’t judge me ).
From Paul Carmody:
"the Tarkus was intentionally voiced for rock music. I mean, they are still capable of playing jazz or female vocal with finesse, but what they really like are guitars, electric bass, drums, cymbals, and synthesizers. I have been playing these instruments for 15 years now; I know what a Marshall half-stack or an Ampeg or an overdriven Fender Bassman sounds like. I wasn't happy with the design until it sounded like those amps were in the room with me.

The Tarkus were designed to play loud, play clean, and to bring rock recordings to life. "

Still sounds like a fit to me. An Econowave or similar horn (e.g. SEOS) + big woofer setup should work too. I'll be putting a pair of these as mains for my living room HT system:

Faital Pro 12PR300 + SEOS-12/DNA-360 | HiFiCircuit

I'd skip the tiny full rangers or mini-monitor 2-ways for this project. The room ain't that small.

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Old 14th July 2019, 11:06 PM   #55
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Which-ever speakers you decide to build please do a build thread
I'd be interested to see what a professional luthier can do as regards woodwork and finishing
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Old 15th July 2019, 12:16 PM   #56
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Old 15th July 2019, 02:39 PM   #57
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sorry I also overlooked the heavy metal as a choice of music programming.
I side with those who stated that loud distorted music could probably be best served by a bunch of commercial designs. Else if you opt for DIY you will find that the size matters for the attack etc. if such qualities are required.
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Old 15th July 2019, 02:50 PM   #58
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Actually Siegfried, a friend and neighbor, made me do it.

Yeah I know you guys must have wrestled on that nice beach at the Sea Ranch, or he played them incessantly at night until you caved in .

p.s. anyways, those are a pretty little pair with a rather special polar distribution. I find them lacking a bit in midbass though. Else for upper mid I use them as a reference when designing my own speakers. I think I will always keep them for their small footprint and inspiring an awe in unsuspecting visitors. The only thing I did not try yet was to use one of your amps to drive the top (just too lazy ).
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Old 21st July 2019, 04:23 AM   #59
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Take a look at the SEAS A26. You can find info at Madisound and reviews online. It uses very high quality drivers in a very simple but effective design. Great for the kinds of music that you stated you like to listen to as it uses a 10"woofer. I actually came across your thread because I am about to list a set of the SEAS drivers at a good discount that were used very briefly (hours) in prototype cabinets. The drivers from Madisound are about $858, which is above your budget but I will sell them for $500 so you can do this project if you so choose.
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Old 21st July 2019, 09:15 AM   #60
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Hi Barney,

I don't know if you already decided to build some speakers, just want to show 2 examples of big two-way speakers with MDF material and bracing and also a more recent build with thin wall speakers with bitumen lining on the walls.

I can tell you that I spent at least 2 x as much time on the small one than on the big Pi 3 speakers... but since you are wood worker I don't think it would be a problem.
Since I don't have a wood shop, they are assembled right on my desk...
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