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mabat 21st June 2019 08:02 AM

Has anyone any experience with BMS 4554? It has a conical output approx. 52 wide, beginning with only around 17 mm (0,7") phase plug opening. Is this driver just a bigger (i.e. 1.4") version of a smaller one they produce?

I guess I could add an option of a conical extension at the throat to see the infuence. I wonder if this would have any advantage or not.

Flaesh 21st June 2019 12:43 PM

4550\4554\4555 seem basically the same except different phase plugs and throats. I have only 4550, but never seen 4\5 offline)).

mabat 21st June 2019 02:29 PM

Now I see I wrote 52 exit angle for 4554 - that is nonsense, it is 26 total. OK, I found 4550 has about 14.

kipman725 21st June 2019 02:49 PM

I emailed BMS about the differences before:
[quote]
These drivers all use the same voice coil assemblies, but the 4594 hast a bigger HF magnet system than 4592 and 4595 and therefore a little better HF response.

Also the exit angles are different:

4592 – 10.0

4594 – 3.0

4504 – 10.8
[\quote]

mabat 21st June 2019 04:09 PM

I believe these are (very) different drivers. I actually have a pair of 4554 but haven't tried them yet.

OscarS 21st June 2019 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabat (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/338806-acoustic-horn-design-easy-ath4-post5830305.html#post5830305)
Honestly, I wouldn't bother making waveguides for AMTs. In my view, they are either too small to be really useful or they beam terribly.

Thanks for your input, except that I have already made a crude version out of an existing horn from Dayton Audio, and the results were exactly what I was looking for. :D

mabat 21st June 2019 09:56 PM

OK, I can imagine a situation where some horn is better than no horn at all. And of course it depends on what you are looking for. We may differ in that, that's fine. Whatever floats your boat :)

Patrick Bateman 21st June 2019 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OscarS (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/338806-acoustic-horn-design-easy-ath4-post5830276.html#post5830276)
I would love to be able to make a custom horn design for my AMT tweeters, but then how does one go about having it physically made?

3D printer

Check out my threads on how to make waveguides in 123D. The same ideas apply to an AMT. Basically you want a spline which gently connects the output of the radiator to the baffle. That's why these waveguides have these big roundovers.

mrk7 23rd June 2019 12:03 AM

Hi Marcel, thanks for making your software available. It's awesome!

mrk7 23rd June 2019 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabat (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/338806-acoustic-horn-design-easy-ath4-post5815370.html#post5815370)
I could make an option of a dome tweeter instead of a plane wave (which is what it is now) for the throat.


This would be brilliant!


Quote:

Originally Posted by mabat (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/338806-acoustic-horn-design-easy-ath4-post5815370.html#post5815370)
Should I include the surround?


Including half of the surround in simulations appears to generate valid results from what I've seen:


Open source Waveguides for CNC & 3D printing!


Quote:

Originally Posted by mabat (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/338806-acoustic-horn-design-easy-ath4-post5815370.html#post5815370)
BTW, the wavefront could also by modeled as non-flat. I only don't know if there is anyone who could utilize such feature.

I for one would be interested


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