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The Preference for Direct Radiators
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Old 30th June 2020, 04:36 AM   #301
ErnieM is online now ErnieM  United States
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Good post.

One prioritizes on-axis spl gain at all usable frequencies at the expense of power response.

The other prioritizes even defined power response at the expense of on axis-spl gain.

Sounds simple enough.
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Old 30th June 2020, 05:06 PM   #302
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Agreed. In fact, 2332 is slightly louder on axis and STX has slightly flatter frequency response.

I just preferred 2332 to STX after EQ compensation contrary to common sense, and I was scratching my head for 2 years. lol. My point is current JBL waveguides (M2 and SPX) would not always be as preferable as their "more" conventional horn design. In Lansing forum, some prefer STX and some prefer 2332, but all agreed that they sound "very" different whatever JBL calls them, and I find it's interesting. This is a preference thread, so I hope my posts are not off topic.
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Old 30th June 2020, 05:23 PM   #303
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I kinda lies in the words..... guiding the waves....
I'm pretty sure that horns are not intended for domestic use - but more for outdoors, where reflective surfaces are not a problem - and you want high efficiency and beamed sound - "shot" at a row of people in larger areas

Smaller waveguides makes much more sense for small rooms, where you want to be sure that reflected sound(unavoidable) is closely relatable to the direct sound.
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Old 30th June 2020, 05:29 PM   #304
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I kinda lies in the words..... guiding the waves....
I'm pretty sure that horns are not intended for domestic use - but more for outdoors, where reflective surfaces are not a problem - and you want high efficiency and beamed sound - "shot" at a row of people in larger areas

Smaller waveguides makes much more sense for small rooms, where you want to be sure that reflected sound(unavoidable) is closely relatable to the direct sound.
Theoretically yes, but JBL uses their "Waveguide" more for their SR (outdoor, venue), and "horn" more for high end home audio market.
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Old 30th June 2020, 05:33 PM   #305
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I kinda lies in the words..... guiding the waves....
I'm pretty sure that horns are not intended for domestic use - but more for outdoors, where reflective surfaces are not a problem - and you want high efficiency and beamed sound - "shot" at a row of people in larger areas

Smaller waveguides makes much more sense for small rooms, where you want to be sure that reflected sound(unavoidable) is closely relatable to the direct sound.
Oh no, I'd say horns can work super in domestic use...even in small rooms.

Would also say, a single "horn" can be both a horn as an impedance transformer and also function as a wave guide, at the same time.
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Old 30th June 2020, 06:06 PM   #306
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Oh no, I'd say horns can work super in domestic use...even in small rooms.

Would also say, a single "horn" can be both a horn as an impedance transformer and also function as a wave guide, at the same time.
Maybe I have to think it over
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