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Old 29th December 2018, 01:44 PM   #161
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Lol... I am still here and willing to hear how it *sounds* with only a fine tuned 1-3 muF cap on the non-inverted tweeter... with no sims and no measurements and no worries on beaming and... Then, maybe just a little choke on the woofer. Just me...
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Old 9th January 2019, 08:47 AM   #162
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I just noticed that there are new replies to the thread. Notification emails seem to have been missed.
I am definitely very interested in the TB drivers.
Was hoping to shoot for a lower XO point though
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:41 AM   #163
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Almost a month of playing every day, and these W6 are starting to break in and open up nicely.

Instruments and vocals are getting more precise, and the soundstage has expanded way past the physical speakers.

Soon, they will need a real dedicated enclosure.

I'm still not sure if they will be by themselves, or add a woofer under for a bit more punch in the low end.
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Old 13th January 2019, 11:48 AM   #164
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Been tweaking a bit more.

Now, I really like the soundstage these W6-2313 are putting out there.

The sound image is very 3D, extending far outside the physical speakers, but also fore and aft, making the singer stand in front of the speakers and the instruments panning around... YMMV as it also depends on good recordings.

I was wondering if I would add woofers, or just deal with a sub.

I happen to have 2 subs. One 300w commercial Yamaha box, and a DIY horn with the TB W8-740Q inside.

I've always had trouble integrating the two. Everyone keeps saying that 2 (or more) subs are better than one, but even though my subs are positioned in different places along the front wall, they never played nicely with each other.

I was reading an article where the owner was using multiple subs, and got a better response when one of the subs phase was flipped.

Well... epiphany!

I flipped the phase on the horn sub, and everything smoothed itself out!
Somehow, even though spaced apart, the subs in phase were exciting the same nodes in the room. Once the phase was flipped on one, it filled the dips of the first one, without making the peaks worse, even smoothing them a bit.

Now, while the mic was set at the listening position, I timed aligned the subs to the W6 and it started to look, and sound, very good.

Had a long listening session that was very satisfying.

One day, I'll tackle the last remnants... the 20 to 30 Hz portion of the spectrum. I'm sure the neighbors will really hate me then! But for now, I'm quite pleased with my XO and sub integration.

These measurements have 2 small EQ notches to reduce the most annoying peaks in my room. Nothing major, about -3dBs, that went a long way to make it more enjoyable.
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Old 13th January 2019, 04:50 PM   #165
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Lol... I am still here and willing to hear how it *sounds* with only a fine tuned 1-3 muF cap on the non-inverted tweeter... with no sims and no measurements and no worries on beaming and... Then, maybe just a little choke on the woofer. Just me...
Murat, get yourself a pair of w-8 1808, or w8-1772, and be done with it !
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Old 13th January 2019, 05:06 PM   #166
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Oh, no whizzer cones, please Scott.
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Old 13th January 2019, 05:45 PM   #167
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Default Oh Dear !

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Oh, no whizzer cones, please Scott.
Even James approves !!
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Old 13th January 2019, 06:28 PM   #168
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Oh, no... Gimme more dynamics!
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Old 14th January 2019, 12:52 AM   #169
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Lol... I am still here and willing to hear how it *sounds* with only a fine tuned 1-3 muF cap on the non-inverted tweeter... with no sims and no measurements and no worries on beaming and... Then, maybe just a little choke on the woofer. Just me...
I tried with a 2uF cap on the tweeter only. Pretty bad. Added an inductor, forgot the values... might have been a 0.65mH or a 0.315mH. Still no.

This is not a driver that will be easy to deal with with a simple cap and be done with it.

But, with a little more work, it does provide enjoyment.
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Old 14th January 2019, 05:45 AM   #170
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How are these TB coaxial drivers doing in terms of "coherence"? Do they compare well in this regard to the full-range drivers you've played with?

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