Hello everyone. I have recently aquired these speakers at a price I simply could not turn down (£150 for the pair!). Now, I knew beforehand that they were really designed to be used with some sort of low frequency reinforcement, and I am hoping to acheive this by building new enclosures for them.
I have previously build enclosures before, not least the awesome Sachiko back loaded horn for the Fostex206E. So, my question would be does anyone one have any suggestions and / or experience that they would like to share? I will be contacting Tannoy in an attempt to get the Thiel-Small parameters in due course. In the meantime, the mids and highs of this driver are simply awesome and I am very happy with them.
Many thanks, Steve (aquapiranha)
I have previously build enclosures before, not least the awesome Sachiko back loaded horn for the Fostex206E. So, my question would be does anyone one have any suggestions and / or experience that they would like to share? I will be contacting Tannoy in an attempt to get the Thiel-Small parameters in due course. In the meantime, the mids and highs of this driver are simply awesome and I am very happy with them.
Many thanks, Steve (aquapiranha)
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Hi Dave, and thanks for the reply! I have spoken to you before but it was a long time ago! I am looking for something to add a bit of weight at the bottom end as currently the cabinet is restricting the lower registers. The treble and mid are amazing though! I have requested the TS details from Tannoy but i am not holding my breath. I was hoping for a narrow, taller design so I do not need to use stands, and less visual impact too.
Thanks Dave. I don't doubt the ability of these drivers given the right enclosure. I will have hope that Tannoy provide the details so that I can use them to get box type / dimensions, that is if course if I can understand whatever software one would use do so! 😂😁
Hi and thanks for the reply. What makes you think I wouldn't get any bass out of them in a different cabinet? Is there something about the drivers I am missing? Thanks, Steve
It is one of Tannoys modern PA drivers and a fair bit more efficient than their classic 12s. To get that efficiency Fs will have been raised quite a bit higher than that of a 12" Monitor Gold, HPD or K3149.
Since it was never meant to be used without a bass except as vocal PA that is not a problem in its intended application.
I think the model number of your DC is either 3140 or 3142.
Well, not quite the response I was hoping for...(No pun intended)....
Dear Stephen,
This is relating to case number: 00748711
Unfortunately we are unable to offer much help in this instance as it is against company policy to divulge build information of any of our products past and present. We cannot provide schematic diagrams of crossovers, amp modules, and cabinet designs or T&S parameters of our drivers with any 3rd party that is not an approved FASC (Factory approved Service Centre)
While we understand that many Tannoy fans enjoy building their own loudspeakers as a hobby, or that some schematics may be required for repair, this has led to some trouble in the past which is why we have adopted this policy.
Kind Regards
Christopher Edwards
Your Technician, Care
Music Tribe
Tel: +44 (0)1562 732299
Email: careente@music-group.com
Web: MUSIC Tribe | Home
So, I will have to use a Monitor Gold design and hope that it can be tuned. Any ideas for enclosures? I like RLH designs but I am open to suggestions thanks,
Steve
Dear Stephen,
This is relating to case number: 00748711
Unfortunately we are unable to offer much help in this instance as it is against company policy to divulge build information of any of our products past and present. We cannot provide schematic diagrams of crossovers, amp modules, and cabinet designs or T&S parameters of our drivers with any 3rd party that is not an approved FASC (Factory approved Service Centre)
While we understand that many Tannoy fans enjoy building their own loudspeakers as a hobby, or that some schematics may be required for repair, this has led to some trouble in the past which is why we have adopted this policy.
Kind Regards
Christopher Edwards
Your Technician, Care
Music Tribe
Tel: +44 (0)1562 732299
Email: careente@music-group.com
Web: MUSIC Tribe | Home
So, I will have to use a Monitor Gold design and hope that it can be tuned. Any ideas for enclosures? I like RLH designs but I am open to suggestions thanks,
Steve
Hi and thanks again for the informative reply. I will get the model number this evening when I get home from work, cheers!
Steve
these are having highish Fs , really made for smaller cabs- stage monitors
no use of having full bass enclosure , you need bass helper with them
simplest Fs measurement will reveal is it 3142 or not
for full bass duty , magic (type) number is 3134 , used in TDM12 and CPA12
but , don't fret - you have awesome base for great spks there
just an idea - put them on OB and use whatever sort of bass helper you like most
example : Tannoy Brute Force OB ….. now Absolute WAF Tannoy OB | Zen Mod Blog
no use of having full bass enclosure , you need bass helper with them
simplest Fs measurement will reveal is it 3142 or not
for full bass duty , magic (type) number is 3134 , used in TDM12 and CPA12
but , don't fret - you have awesome base for great spks there
just an idea - put them on OB and use whatever sort of bass helper you like most
example : Tannoy Brute Force OB ….. now Absolute WAF Tannoy OB | Zen Mod Blog
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Try asking Lockwood Audio, they might know and in my experience they are more helpful than Tannoy.
Lockwood Audio
Nice acquisition!
As has been mentioned any high efficiency 12" woofer ( ie; above 92db ) will surely sport a high Fs, low Qts, and a very small Vas.
As such, there won't be a BR alignment that will produce bass of any consequence.
You are best off ( I believe ) acquiring the necessary Ts parameters and then seeing if a BLH can provide you with meaningful bass response ( assuming you don't want to use a real woofer below this driver ) .
Nice acquisition!
As has been mentioned any high efficiency 12" woofer ( ie; above 92db ) will surely sport a high Fs, low Qts, and a very small Vas.
As such, there won't be a BR alignment that will produce bass of any consequence.
You are best off ( I believe ) acquiring the necessary Ts parameters and then seeing if a BLH can provide you with meaningful bass response ( assuming you don't want to use a real woofer below this driver ) .
Thanks Earl. If I could I would build a BLH as a preference. There is bass, just not the required rib cage shattering variety! 😁
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