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Old 10th May 2018, 05:58 AM   #21
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@Keruskerfuerst : why not mid and sub on top again?
Because of the distance of woofer to the ground. Causes the baffle steps. Does not sound well.

I think, 25 cm Woofer from Visaton, ceramic midrange from Accuton and a ribbon tweeter from Mundorf.
And a woofer unit with 30 cm bass drivers. Separate chamber.
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Old 10th May 2018, 07:55 AM   #22
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Sorry did the OP say this was for studio mixing and mastering? (i.e. looking for something like a nearfield monitor?)
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If he talks about something like Focal Scala Utopia, this is not a nearfield monitor.
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Old 10th May 2018, 08:13 AM   #24
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thanks to everybody. Of course that is not nearfield! I really get an idea of what UGG is telling me and how to design it.

@Keruskerfuerst : You think One Bass Unit, one mid and one tweeter. then add an extra sub? What would be the advantage? Sounds good too!
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But how would you mix music with a Focal Scala Utopia? (Except as a "second ear" to verify if your mix sounds good after you did your work with a near-field.)

I mean no offense: you probably knew this already. But the point of a studio speaker is not to sound great, it is to "translate". If you mix with high-end home speakers I am afraid your mix will sound great only on high-end home speakers.

If you have already got near-fields and you are just building a set of "second ears" please disregard me - I didn't mean to question your question.

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But how would you mix music with a Focal Scala Utopia? (Except as a "second ear" to verify if your mix sounds good after you did your work with a near-field.)
Like you sied, first nearfield mixing then the big boys to listen to!
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Ok I see. Sorry about that.
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Old 10th May 2018, 08:43 AM   #28
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I listened to ATC scm 150 asl pro, PMC MB2S-P,
The level really has to be very high, my room is treated by an acoustician and build by me. So there will not be a problem! :-)
then you should definitely look into ATC SCM100 clones K100 Monitor

or PMC MB2 clones WA TL12

both models are a great mixture of nearflield skills for listening but still like big boys to listen too. you don't need two pairs of speakers.. just one good pair

you can activate either using new Hypex Fusion plate amps. if you do everything from scratch it will be a lot of work and you'll need lots of knowledge. alone chosing drivers must be done carefully to fot them together when it comes to phase response and radiation.

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Ok I see. Sorry about that.
Nothing to say sorry about, I appreciate your help!

@hugo stiglitz : I have seen this site before but here in Germany there is no listening room them, right? I always found the ATC models to lack a little bit in bass response. May be adding a sub or dual sub can fix this?
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You think One Bass Unit, one mid and one tweeter. then add an extra sub? What would be the advantage?
Correction: two woofers with 25 cm, two midrange units and one tweeter.
two 30 cm subs: powerful and precise bass and precise reproduction of mid and high range.

And it is impossible to have a homogenous transistion range between a 15 cm midrange and a 30 cm woofer. Does not sound good.

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