Hi all,
Any chance these Titanium Compression Horn tweeters in these coax drivers has good sound to Hi-Fi use?
Do that plastic horn will not sound like duck voice?
The use is a two way with simple xover in 3.5kHz (12'') and 4kHz (15'') in a big BR box 1 duct only.
https://www.beyma.com/getpdf.php?pid=12CXA400Nd
https://www.beyma.com/getpdf.php?pid=15CXA400Nd
Any chance these Titanium Compression Horn tweeters in these coax drivers has good sound to Hi-Fi use?
Do that plastic horn will not sound like duck voice?
The use is a two way with simple xover in 3.5kHz (12'') and 4kHz (15'') in a big BR box 1 duct only.
https://www.beyma.com/getpdf.php?pid=12CXA400Nd
https://www.beyma.com/getpdf.php?pid=15CXA400Nd
I have some 15CXA400Nd in pro sound wedge monitors and they are the best pro coaxial that I've tried so far. Have been meaning to try them for home HiFi for a while now so will report back with an opinion soon!
If I remember, crossover was pretty easy (although I use active) and they required little EQ compared to others I have tried. I feel more measurements are needed to attempt to match dispersion at crossover so will hopefully get around to that in the next few weeks.
I wouldn't suggest 4kHz as a good crossover point for a 15" though.
If I remember, crossover was pretty easy (although I use active) and they required little EQ compared to others I have tried. I feel more measurements are needed to attempt to match dispersion at crossover so will hopefully get around to that in the next few weeks.
I wouldn't suggest 4kHz as a good crossover point for a 15" though.
Martion Bullfrog Active made me impressed at an audio show. The 15" Beyma coax would be my choice for cloning this jewel!
RA: Martion: A dream loudspeaker
Bullfrog active | Martion
RA: Martion: A dream loudspeaker
Bullfrog active | Martion
...The 15" Beyma coax would be my choice for cloning this jewel!
If you ever come to cloning it, a detailled report would be most appreciated!
Iam sad to see it have a kitsch looks and is a German ''LifeStyle'' product as MB cars, aimed to moneyed Millennials teens:
Driven by DSP with a symmetrical analogue and digital SPDIF input,
Toslink and AES-EBU, Double-Stereo-Amp 2x 350 w /2 x 10 w.
After all these non minimalist stuff the product price grow to €6.000
Anyway thanks for inform.
Driven by DSP with a symmetrical analogue and digital SPDIF input,
Toslink and AES-EBU, Double-Stereo-Amp 2x 350 w /2 x 10 w.
After all these non minimalist stuff the product price grow to €6.000
Anyway thanks for inform.
The Kitsch looks may very well make some acoustical sense - I don't think he chose the rather weird corner and edge angling for optical reasons alone.
No one is forced to use an overpriced plate amp/dsp - for starterers, some hefty class D amp(s) plus something like mini-dsp should do the job as well.
The moneyed millenial teens are a totally different story, admittedly
No one is forced to use an overpriced plate amp/dsp - for starterers, some hefty class D amp(s) plus something like mini-dsp should do the job as well.
The moneyed millenial teens are a totally different story, admittedly
^Yes it is most likely this one in Bullfrog RCF CX15N351 15" Coaxial Speakers - RCF CX15N351 15" Coaxial Speaker - RCF CX15N351 speakers - RCF CX15N351 900 watt 15" coaxial speaker. RCF CX15N351 coaxial speakers and other RCF speakers available here.
But this thread is of Beyma and the mentioned 15" has nice responses! Off-axis smoothness is a question still, better prognosis with the RCF
But this thread is of Beyma and the mentioned 15" has nice responses! Off-axis smoothness is a question still, better prognosis with the RCF
The 12" version has once been tested by VD:
Test Bench - Acustica Beyma’s 12CXA400Nd 12” Pro Sound Coaxial Driver | audioXpress
Both, the 12" and also the 15", are also available in ferrite. And there is also a 10" that looks interesting as well.
There is a video on YouTube by some Scandinavian guy demoeing his speakers, using the 15" ferrite ones:
YouTube
Regards
Charles
Test Bench - Acustica Beyma’s 12CXA400Nd 12” Pro Sound Coaxial Driver | audioXpress
Both, the 12" and also the 15", are also available in ferrite. And there is also a 10" that looks interesting as well.
There is a video on YouTube by some Scandinavian guy demoeing his speakers, using the 15" ferrite ones:
YouTube
Regards
Charles
I sure painting those rings black will hurt less the eyes.The Kitsch looks may very well make some acoustical sense - I don't think he chose the rather weird corner and edge angling for optical reasons alone.
No one is forced to use an overpriced plate amp/dsp - for starterers, some hefty class D amp(s) plus something like mini-dsp should do the job as well.
The moneyed millenial teens are a totally different story, admittedly
Nice thanks. I will look forward your report.I have some 15CXA400Nd in pro sound wedge monitors and they are the best pro coaxial that I've tried so far. Have been meaning to try them for home HiFi for a while now so will report back with an opinion soon!
If I remember, crossover was pretty easy (although I use active) and they required little EQ compared to others I have tried. I feel more measurements are needed to attempt to match dispersion at crossover so will hopefully get around to that in the next few weeks.
I wouldn't suggest 4kHz as a good crossover point for a 15" though.
is that ~1K2 dip introduced by the cavity resonance between the "wave-guide" and cone ? I have the old Beyma 12cx with apt50 sized compression driver - nice for what they were and subjectively better than Eminence Beta 12cx. P-Audio 15CXA closed out at US$99 each including BMD440 but no one on the fullrange forum seemed interested.
^Yes it is most likely this one in Bullfrog RCF CX15N351 15" Coaxial Speakers - RCF CX15N351 15" Coaxial Speaker - RCF CX15N351 speakers - RCF CX15N351 900 watt 15" coaxial speaker. RCF CX15N351 coaxial speakers and other RCF speakers available here.
But this thread is of Beyma and the mentioned 15" has nice responses! Off-axis smoothness is a question still, better prognosis with the RCF
It is definitely the RCF unit, i know first hand.
Its also how it sounds not jyst the off axis responce. The passive Bullfrogs are also great.
The driver has Qts=0.26, Fs=55Hz. How are they getting any deep bass out of it?
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