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Non directional sound for filling a room
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Old 12th January 2018, 05:22 AM   #1
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What are some ideas for a room where you donít want imaging, but just want great sound throughout the room? This isnít the critical listening room (that I have in a separate room), but a living room with different seating directions and positions. I want a full and engaging sound that we can enjoy throughout the room. I thought of giving the whole family HD 800ís to wear, but I want something more sociable.

There are threads here OB, omni, floor coupled. What technique would you choose if you didnít want imaging, just sound quality throughout the room?

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Old 12th January 2018, 11:40 AM   #2
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Omni and floor coupled could give good results but this is also an interesting thread Stereophonic Sound from a Single Loudspeaker and he talks about having a negligible sweet spot.
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Old 12th January 2018, 04:25 PM   #3
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How many speakers do you want to work with? Maybe four high wall mounted or ceiling speakers with a similar amount of small subs distributed around.

I highly recommend the Dayton PS65LP fullrange driver for it's very wide dispersion and clarity. It's impressive when properly eq'd.

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Old 12th January 2018, 04:49 PM   #4
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Omnis can image, you need to do more research
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Non directional sound for filling a room
In my lab, where I rarely have a line of sight to the speakers, I use my Ohm Walsh Twos. I actually get very good imaging if I am not standing right by them. Four or five feet seems to be enough. I was very surprised at how well they do in such an awkward placement.

So, look up Juspur's Pencils(here) which are a simple Walsh-type knockoff. It uses 5 1/4 inch HDS woofers, which have not changed much in behavior with cone material changes.

It's an easy project, and if you don't like it, no problem using the drivers for more 'normal' speakers.
p.s. they are at about a quarter of the length into the room, and I am all over the place at various times.
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Old 12th January 2018, 05:41 PM   #6
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I use Omni's and they will definitely fill the room with consistent tone. Imaging is also very good but you need space away from the walls. You could also upmix stereo to a conventional 5.1 HT system and fill the room although the tone may be less consistent as you move around.
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I was assuming I would need multiple speakers spread around. Plus the room is L shaped.

I have a pair of Lx-mini. One thought was to build more, but then I'd have all these columns around the place spaced out from the walls. Plus, the tweeters on those are directional. (I had thoughts about hanging them from the ceiling with 6in embedded in the ceiling. Or bending the pvc so much of the column would hide in the ceiling)

Ill go read those threads.
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The Lx-minis are nice. I liked the Plutos a little more though because of the smaller fullrange.
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I have a pair of Lx-mini.
I'm curious, do you not find they image well?
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Old 12th January 2018, 08:56 PM   #10
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They image, but for this installation I don't want stereo imaging since I don't want to have a suite spot to sit at. I was thinking that the tweeter also needs to be more omni directional for this setup.
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