I got tired of waiting and built myself this avantgarde trio clone out of newspaper and tape. Anything is possible.
Tweeter: Beyma CP380M
Mids: Community M200
Midbass: vintage 8" Blackcone
Sub: old pioneer, will be replaced with Eminence lab 12 in 111L sealed sonotube
XO: Behringer CX3400 - 500/4000
I would do the big midbass horn also but now I am out of tape.
Tweeter: Beyma CP380M
Mids: Community M200
Midbass: vintage 8" Blackcone
Sub: old pioneer, will be replaced with Eminence lab 12 in 111L sealed sonotube
XO: Behringer CX3400 - 500/4000
I would do the big midbass horn also but now I am out of tape.
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Cardboard horns can sound remarkably good... Try a K tube on the tweeter.
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For time. This took me 30 min. My last horn was a Goto S-150, 200Hz, and it took a month, half of which was spent begging forgiveness to my poor gf. I expect the AG midbass horn will take another 30 minutes tomorrow, now that I found some more tape. I might even break a sweat.
Anybody want to buy a set of Trio horns? $5+shipping. Can be sent as a letter.
Preferrable placed BEHIND the projector cloth. What a funny looking tweeter. I will try it.
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I run my K tubes a little differently
I position mine parallel to the floor and at seated ear height. The closed side of the tube faces the outside wall and the k-slots face each other so they fire across the room. the stage and image this way is excellent. I am using EV DH1A drivers with 2 inch exit right now but will soon remove the nose cup adapters and run them as 1.4 inch exit drivers. Hope this is of interest. Best regards Moray James.
Sorry I cannot seem to be able to rotate the picture but I am sure you will get the idea of my 23.5 lbs tweeters.
I position mine parallel to the floor and at seated ear height. The closed side of the tube faces the outside wall and the k-slots face each other so they fire across the room. the stage and image this way is excellent. I am using EV DH1A drivers with 2 inch exit right now but will soon remove the nose cup adapters and run them as 1.4 inch exit drivers. Hope this is of interest. Best regards Moray James.
Sorry I cannot seem to be able to rotate the picture but I am sure you will get the idea of my 23.5 lbs tweeters.
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Yeah, looks like a facepalm.
That is a big tweeter! You can use this all the way up? I will later cross at 8kHz to a true ribbon supertweeter to extend to 20kHz or more.
You should try the AG trio tweeter. It has such an open vivid sound to it. I made mine in plaster which is hard like stone. Makes the not so soft sounding tweeter sound harder than it should. It made me pursue softer materials.
Your K tube looks like a mini Karlsson. I can make it but I think the AG trio tweeter will probably sound better. I sort of have a K tube already. I miss the curve of the trio tweeter that opens up the sound and gives the tweeter cone driver-like directivity, as opposed to slower opening horns.
For the days when i really cant take more compression driver tweeter, I revert not to yucky dome tweeter, but to the Beyna TPL-150. Lacking in musicality it makes up with being rather soft to listen to, yet very analytical. Like a 45 tube amp is versus a more musical 2A3 tube amp. In the pic is also the insides of the Goto horn.
That is a big tweeter! You can use this all the way up? I will later cross at 8kHz to a true ribbon supertweeter to extend to 20kHz or more.
You should try the AG trio tweeter. It has such an open vivid sound to it. I made mine in plaster which is hard like stone. Makes the not so soft sounding tweeter sound harder than it should. It made me pursue softer materials.
Your K tube looks like a mini Karlsson. I can make it but I think the AG trio tweeter will probably sound better. I sort of have a K tube already. I miss the curve of the trio tweeter that opens up the sound and gives the tweeter cone driver-like directivity, as opposed to slower opening horns.
For the days when i really cant take more compression driver tweeter, I revert not to yucky dome tweeter, but to the Beyna TPL-150. Lacking in musicality it makes up with being rather soft to listen to, yet very analytical. Like a 45 tube amp is versus a more musical 2A3 tube amp. In the pic is also the insides of the Goto horn.
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I was kidding. If you want a horn you have to tape it yourself.
Unless you really want one.
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nhuwar, thank you.
Too drunk to realize his own limitations, Hobohorn reaches for more. Now introducing a Fane S 8M in a horn you will soon wish you never had seen. The Fane is more analytical than the black cone fullrange. Sounds more modern with more muscle. But the fullrange has vintage musicality that is difficult to find elsewhere. The Fane is not nearly as detailed as a police siren in a 200 Hz Goto S-150. In fact I am a little disappointed. I thought the Fane sounded much better without a horn. Now it is sort of muffled. I may have crossover problems. The CD player sounded much better without an xo. But I really think it is the 4 inch throat. The horn need to be shortened in the throat. I would bring out the sizzors if I just did not ran out of tape again.
Too drunk to realize his own limitations, Hobohorn reaches for more. Now introducing a Fane S 8M in a horn you will soon wish you never had seen. The Fane is more analytical than the black cone fullrange. Sounds more modern with more muscle. But the fullrange has vintage musicality that is difficult to find elsewhere. The Fane is not nearly as detailed as a police siren in a 200 Hz Goto S-150. In fact I am a little disappointed. I thought the Fane sounded much better without a horn. Now it is sort of muffled. I may have crossover problems. The CD player sounded much better without an xo. But I really think it is the 4 inch throat. The horn need to be shortened in the throat. I would bring out the sizzors if I just did not ran out of tape again.
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That will be tomorrows exercise. Not with newspaper like tonight but with thicker wallpaper. No tape this either. I like the organic sound very much, but it is a tad too gentle. I always complain about how harsh compression drivers sound, but never in these horns.
I am starting to love the hobohorn. It is like sonething I could sleep in.
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I do see one problem though. On you k horn. It isn't sealed to the driver so its running unloaded. You'll be producing higher levels of distortion that way. You need to come up with some way to seal it to your compression driver.
Other then that you have my admiration for shear fortitude and ingenuity.
Other then that you have my admiration for shear fortitude and ingenuity.
my paper K-Tube is paper
One single layer with a very small tape seam at the top of the K-Slot and a thin loop of wire as a shape keeper. The paper used is very cheap note pad stuff. The sonic results are so good as to inhibit the urge of making anything more substantial as the present results are so very good from so simple a material. One of those urgent "it's not broken so don't fix it" times where you feel it best to leave things be as they are. Best regards Moray James.
One single layer with a very small tape seam at the top of the K-Slot and a thin loop of wire as a shape keeper. The paper used is very cheap note pad stuff. The sonic results are so good as to inhibit the urge of making anything more substantial as the present results are so very good from so simple a material. One of those urgent "it's not broken so don't fix it" times where you feel it best to leave things be as they are. Best regards Moray James.
GF should be thankful of all the great audio she gets to hear.
What was your method to get such a perfect round shape without a lathe? Measuring with eyes give a charismatic and unique sound but I want to try perfectly round as well.
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