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Old 25th October 2018, 08:30 PM   #3101
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I'm also planning to run a Kodi as HTPC. Are you using that on Linux ? Tried the Windows version, pretty decent and does the basic job.
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Old 28th October 2018, 09:24 PM   #3102
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Default Updated system pics

My system has been upgraded so much it demanded me loading new pics. I built a new CC using JBL 2118js and Hivi RT2ii ribbon. Side ported, individual compartments.
Installed the Hivi ribbons on the open baffle AN Super 12s as well.
Got rid of the Eminence Alpha 15as, replaced them with JBL 4530s loaded with JBL 2226h drivers.
Finally, introduced a set of horns to the system, Emilar EH 500s with EC 175 8 drivers.
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Old 29th October 2018, 11:23 PM   #3103
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My impression of the 'Finalists'

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(The speaker in the pic is from the designer's site, my camera isn't at hand right now and it looks pretty much the same except my pair is painted white...)



It's hard to compare speakers objectively as we all know (unless you have a proper A/B set up...), but I'll do my best to describe close listening to music I know well enough to tell what's missing and what is revealed by them.


I read the Finalists are all about the mid, which is very detailed with every lick in the singer's lips audible, but these speakers go deep deep down, better than any of the popular slightly more compact and aesthetic pairs can do. It's not massive bass but it's there (as low as 30Hz?).



First, there's great variability between how different genres sound on them. The 70's rock classics are generally badly recorded (King Crimson) with a few rare exceptions as the Pink Floyd, and don't sound that much more enjoyable on them than properly recorded material (sounds to me most has no extension down at all but I didn't analyze it with a software...).


Where they really shine is newer chamber music and especially modern acoustic music. My listening room is far from acoustically ideal, and as they say the room is part of the speakers, but even then music such as the 'Rodrigo Y Gabriela' duo guitar heavy laden music excels beyond my expectations.


The best I heard in them so far is Moondog's 'Sax Pax For A Sax'. It's crazy good. There's something it does just right with how it reproduces natural sounds with every delicate thump in Moondog's custom made percussion and the way which it decays into the black background with felt reverberations, with every instrument in the band easy to tell apart and isolate and I suspect it's not the sound engineer who got it right but rather the lack of engineering thereof (no compression?).


I don't see myself upgrading from these, and not just because it took so long to build... It's hard for me to justify upgrading from something which wow's me even after hours of listening, and it seems to me most popular recorded material isn't detailed enough to get much more out of...


Hope I didn't tire you with my lengthy description, and thanks to Jim and to the patient guys from here I asked silly questions...

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Old 30th October 2018, 10:49 AM   #3104
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I'd still see your white version.. I'm also planning speakers in piano white.. it would be great to see a pair of such..
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Old 30th October 2018, 12:03 PM   #3105
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I'd still see your white version.. I'm also planning speakers in piano white.. it would be great to see a pair of such..
I chose white because the rooms here are painted white and it would make them more lowkey and grab less attention.

Two low quality photos I just took with my phone. I really cut corners at the end and didn't bother to fix the pink polish stains and a few other cosmetic flaws but nobody even notices from afar... I'm mostly concerned with sound quality. I just listened to the Jacques Loussier Trio, and these babies sure deliver.
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Old 4th November 2018, 01:07 AM   #3106
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Old 4th November 2018, 04:41 PM   #3107
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I chose white because the rooms here are painted white and it would make them more lowkey and grab less attention.

Two low quality photos I just took with my phone. I really cut corners at the end and didn't bother to fix the pink polish stains and a few other cosmetic flaws but nobody even notices from afar... I'm mostly concerned with sound quality. I just listened to the Jacques Loussier Trio, and these babies sure deliver.
Hmm they still look okay
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I can’t help but notice that tweeter and midrange are much closer together in designer s photo than in your design. Is there anything I’m missing?
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Old 5th November 2018, 04:06 PM   #3109
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I can’t help but notice that tweeter and midrange are much closer together in designer s photo than in your design. Is there anything I’m missing?
I don't know how that happened. Maybe since the MDF thickness is different here than in the original design (metric instead of imperial) I adapted the design and ended up with wrong proportions... I know from an engineering perspective it makes less sense in that configuration but they still sound OK. I'm not going to rebuild them because of that...


I think there's another mistake, the mid drivers look a bit too standing out...
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