It was recommended that I join up here and ask exactly what I am looking for and see what the experts think I am completely new to home audio and am looking to build my own speakers. I don't want to get into home audio as a hobby so I am just looking to build something and be happy with it, hah. This will be in a living room (11x17) for general audio purposes. Not looking to build a theater room here. Most the time watch tv with the tv speakers and receiver off. I was thinking of only using a sub when I want the extra bass for either music or movies. So I don't know if that means I should go with 3 way mains or 2 way will be sufficient. I don't need it to sound the best just decent with the ability to get decently loud if I ever need to. I was thinking about doing it in stages like building the mains first, then center and rears later if possible. The projects I had in mind were PE Tritrix, Dr. K's MTM, Zaph's BA MTM, or this RS150 MTM. I'm liking the BA MTM or the RS150 more due to the lower cost. So which of these (or other) would you recommend? Can I build just towers/mains for now then do the rest later? Any input is appreciated. Thanks
Jason
Jason
Hi Jason,
Whats your budget?
I would look at these:
http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=MT27KITA
http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=SUBSD12KITA
I would build at lease the Front LT/RT and sub.
These are cdn prices from a lower mainland company.
http://www.creativesound.ca
Whats your budget?
I would look at these:
http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=MT27KITA
$229 per speaker. / $458 pairFull range bookshelf speaker kit using the Mark Audio Alpair 5 aluminum wide range "tweeter" and the CSS SDX7 woofer. Includes CNC cut baffle, magnetic grill, crossover parts, plans, etc. to build the rest of the speaker. You will have to source and cut materials for the rest of the enclosure to finish this kit.
http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=SUBSD12KITA
$499This Kit includes all hard parts necessary to build a Sub SD12. It includes an O audio 500W Bash amplifier, a CSS SD12 Subwoofer, a CNC machined baffle, and amplifier panel to mount the woofer, and amp. It aslo includes floor spikes, and screws necessary to mount the amplifier and woofer.
I would build at lease the Front LT/RT and sub.
These are cdn prices from a lower mainland company.
http://www.creativesound.ca
Budget is hard for me to say at this time. I look at this way. If someone recommends something that is more than I want to spend, I will save to get those if I like them. I want to build all my own cabinets. From lots of reading I like the look and cost of the nat p's that I saw over at htguide. I want floor standing mains and using a 3" port since I have a couple of those already. I'm hoping to source most/all parts from PE if possible.
Thanks Jrace for the info, I've bought from Bob before once. At this time I don't have a receiver yet either (thinking onkyo 705 :S). I will be building a sub either use a 12" infinity reference, or a jl 12w6v2. The bash 500 will be the plate amp I'm after if I don't start with a receiver that will power one.
Thanks Jrace for the info, I've bought from Bob before once. At this time I don't have a receiver yet either (thinking onkyo 705 :S). I will be building a sub either use a 12" infinity reference, or a jl 12w6v2. The bash 500 will be the plate amp I'm after if I don't start with a receiver that will power one.
y8s said:If you want cheap and easy, build the B3S single driver speaker
If you go that wat, for a bit more budget the FF85K can be put into a small box.
If you have the budget i would consider the CSS FR125 as a really good all-rounder that works REALLY well with HT receivers. It does -- IMO -- work best in a 5-10 liter enclosure (sealed or aperiodic). Hard to make that into a floorstander, and it won't use your ports up.
Add a sub and away you go (also from Bob, a pr of SDX10 or a single SD12.
dave
[ I'm hoping to source most/all parts from PE if possible.
don't forget solen.ca. they carry a great selection and are in Canada - less shipping hassles.
where abouts in b.c. are you located?
blue934
Quote-CSS FR125 as a really good all-rounder that works REALLY well with HT receivers. It does -- IMO -- work best in a 5-10 liter enclosure (sealed or aperiodic).-Quote
Planet10 do you have any examples of this unit? 5L sealed x5 +sub would make fo a very WAF. possible fr graph -f3, f10?
what is the FF85K?
blue934
Planet10 do you have any examples of this unit? 5L sealed x5 +sub would make fo a very WAF. possible fr graph -f3, f10?
what is the FF85K?
blue934
jrmxj said:Jason, i recommend the tritrix they have alot going for them,
1. about 180 a pair for drivers and xo.
2. easy 8 ohm load.
3. easy to build xo.
4. can be built sealed, vented or tl.
5. they sound very good for the money.
there is a matching tm that you can use for sourounds
Where can I find the info to look over the other box designs? Also info on the surrounds? Thanks
http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/index.html
this is curt's site for the tritrix and many others
palnet10, playing around with the fr125 i get an f3 of 108hz and f10 of58 in a 5L sealed. does that seem about right? that mate nicely with a sub at 80-100hz.
blue934
this is curt's site for the tritrix and many others
palnet10, playing around with the fr125 i get an f3 of 108hz and f10 of58 in a 5L sealed. does that seem about right? that mate nicely with a sub at 80-100hz.
blue934
blue934 said:CSS FR125 as a really good all-rounder that works REALLY well with HT receivers. It does -- IMO -- work best in a 5-10 liter enclosure (sealed or aperiodic).
Planet10 do you have any examples of this unit? 5L sealed x5 +sub would make fo a very WAF. possible fr graph -f3, f10?
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/boxes-CSS.html#4L-aperiodic
There are drawings for 2 variations... pretty easy to manipulate into a shape suitable for your use. Our build of the alt box was probably the best we've heard FR125
No measured response. I''d estimate they hit 80 Hz on the bottom and with some finesse.
what is the FF85K?
A 3" Fostex (and on e of the drivers we have choosen to modify). Really to be considered a mid-tweeter. It approaches 100 Hz all by itself in a 2 litre cox. Really rocks when mated to a woofer and crossed circa 300 Hz.
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/FF85KeN.html
dave
planet10 said:
Nanaimo?
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dave
If you wanted exact location, then yes Nanaimo I think I have decided on the Natalie P's. I've been reading and reading the threads on them. Started saving diagrams and pics, making a cheat sheet etc. Hopefully within the next couple days I can order the parts once I figure that all out.
Blazin_Jason said:If you wanted exact location, then yes Nanaimo
Send me an email if you'd like to be on the VI diyFEST mail list. Every summer we have a diyFEST here on the mountain (just up the mountain from Goldstream park). This summer will be #6
dave
blue934 said:playing around with the fr125 i get an f3 of 108hz and f10 of58 in a 5L sealed. does that seem about right? that mate nicely with a sub at 80-100hz.
Yep, aperiodic lowers the peaking at the cutoff and extends the bass a bit (as if it was in a slightly larger box.
dave
Take a look at these as well. There's an MT and MTM version. Both are a little more cost effective than the NatP's and the TangBand W5-704 is an excellent woofer that doesn't need all the metal cone breakup components.
http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=28282&page=1&pp=35
http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=28282&page=1&pp=35
Blazin_Jason said:For those of you on the island as well I need some acoustic material for the cabinets. What can be bought locally to use as an acoustic foam? Doesn't have to be foam can be fiberglass or whatever.
You ever get down to Victoria (i'm actually closer than that)? We are still using vintage materials or other salvage from my years of recycling drivers (and burning the boxes). I could probably fix you up -- you'd just need to bring the "donuts" (no Tim Horton's thou)
dave
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