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Old 30th September 2006, 07:02 AM   #11
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The Frugel-Horn Mk 2? Gotta get V1 into Martin's hands 1st.

I have a hunch, that thou possible by the theory, that a horn using the multiplying factor of a close surface still won't quit reach the same pinnacle as an all-out assault would.

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I was thinking of something made especially for an exact placement in my corners so the corner itself would truly be the final segment with a well planned transition into it. I would think that done correctly the concrete would make a better construction than relatively thin wood.
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Old 30th September 2006, 08:17 AM   #13
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As a combination, my Harvey/Spawn horn works pretty well. BIB with FF165K. And my friend Steve's DIY tractrix horns with Lowther EX4s are pretty special when corner loaded & show a lot of potential.
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The Klein horns look interesting but they are way too big. I know I mentioned that I don't mind them being big but not That big.

Is the BIB a horn or is it a type if a TL?
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Is the BIB a horn or is it a type if a TL?
A little philosiphizing: Martin King's (and to a much lesser extent Augspurger's) tools have revealed to us a large space of what can be loosly called quarter-wave resonators. Within this space there are subspaces which nicely coincide with objects we have clasiically called horns, TLs, Voigt pipes, etc. The tools have opened up a much larger space for us to explore (the tools still don't blanket the entire space -- but i don't think Martin will be satisfied until they do), and over the last 5-6 years people have been exploring this space. Probably one of the biggest developments has seen the classification & understanding of the Mass Loaded designs... not that they weren't being built, i wonder how many designers build a tall-skinny BR and found that its response was not as expected?

The BIB is somewhere in the that space between the areas classically classified as Voigt pipe & Horn.

It is also of interest that this particular design highlited the need to be careful of the results the tool spit out and that the room cannot be taken out of the equation ... and may well have been at least partially responsible for the inclusion of some room effects being including as modeling options in the latst round of MJK sheets.

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Agreed. Lots of gray areas. For safety's sake now though, I follow GM's definition: all expanding pipes are effectively horns, so I just use that!
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Agreed. Lots of gray areas. For safety's sake now though, I follow GM's definition: all expanding pipes are effectively horns, so I just use that!
YeeHaa, that means my OB-RLH is a horn after all.
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