Hi all, what do you think? There must be a home for it somewhere...
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-Pair-of-Multi...ryZ14993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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BEAUTFUL JOB. i agree the speaker isnt that perdy im not too wild about the design on the side. but the two-tone is plenty nice. as a diy guy the price is way high for me, but definately a beautiful set of enclosures. great job.
on a side note. how did you come up with the layout for it.
BEAUTFUL JOB. i agree the speaker isnt that perdy im not too wild about the design on the side. but the two-tone is plenty nice. as a diy guy the price is way high for me, but definately a beautiful set of enclosures. great job.
on a side note. how did you come up with the layout for it.
This still has to be proven...
Anyway very nice/professional woodwork even if I'm not a fan of this kind of finition.
Seems to me that this kind of "back horn" design obliged to place the speakers far from the rear and lateral walls. This obliges your customer to have a (very) large listening room.
Good luck.
Lionel Chapuis
I've always thought your design was intriguing. Yes, that seems a little pricey. But is it worth it? I don't know.
I think it would definitely help if you had response curves, etc. in the ad so they knew what to expect. Especially for that kind of money. How much power does it require? How loud does it go? What are the benefits of your design? Have you compared it to anything similar in price on the market? You get the idea.
It could be the best sounding speaker out there. But, it's an unknown to pretty much everyone what that box really is and does.
I hope I'm making sense. Best of luck!
I think it would definitely help if you had response curves, etc. in the ad so they knew what to expect. Especially for that kind of money. How much power does it require? How loud does it go? What are the benefits of your design? Have you compared it to anything similar in price on the market? You get the idea.
It could be the best sounding speaker out there. But, it's an unknown to pretty much everyone what that box really is and does.
I hope I'm making sense. Best of luck!
i would like to
see more of your work definaly one of the nicer looking sets i have seen out of a diy shop. have you ever thought of marketing them to the higher end stereo shops? i think that a person that has unlimited amounts of money would pay top dollar for those. the shop i worked in (car audio swithed to home) built some cool boxes out of mdf and overlayed it with oak so we could stain it. looked real nice when done. in the highend houses that are being built if you can match the floor inlayes with a stereo cabinet...it was the hot ticket. I see a definate nitch for those. try to market them and see what happens. i think you would be pleasently surprised.
see more of your work definaly one of the nicer looking sets i have seen out of a diy shop. have you ever thought of marketing them to the higher end stereo shops? i think that a person that has unlimited amounts of money would pay top dollar for those. the shop i worked in (car audio swithed to home) built some cool boxes out of mdf and overlayed it with oak so we could stain it. looked real nice when done. in the highend houses that are being built if you can match the floor inlayes with a stereo cabinet...it was the hot ticket. I see a definate nitch for those. try to market them and see what happens. i think you would be pleasently surprised.
Lovely job, but horns are a specialist market, because they're unusual, and I suspect the majority of people are wary when they see a phase like 'home built', or words to that effect. Full-range drivers also often send people running for the hills -they just aren;t used to it, sadly. At $1500, they might well be worth it in sonic terms, but in financial reality, they're only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
Funny old world. You'd likely get double that if they had a name-plate of a company on them, and they were sold through a high-end hifi store.
Funny old world. You'd likely get double that if they had a name-plate of a company on them, and they were sold through a high-end hifi store.
Thanks guys for all the constructive replies;
The design, I thought it would be good to come up with something a little different from the ordinary square boxes.
The layout is basically like a Buschhorn concept; my question still is which is better, front or rear facing horn? I'm re-drawing the T-Horns because loss of data, long story
Maybe I could be the 2nd DIY Horn shop from the garage....
The design, I thought it would be good to come up with something a little different from the ordinary square boxes.
The layout is basically like a Buschhorn concept; my question still is which is better, front or rear facing horn? I'm re-drawing the T-Horns because loss of data, long story
Maybe I could be the 2nd DIY Horn shop from the garage....
I've seen DIY speakers on Ebay and they never get anywhere near a price that is representative of their performance, build quality or the drivers that they use.
I agree that DIYers may see them and realise their true value but then they are the ones likely to build their own anyway. The rest of the buyers are slaves to the Hi-Fi media and couldn't possibly have anything in their home that didn't have a 'five-star' rating somewhere. Sad but true!
Here's a tip (but you didn't hear it from me ). Scan in the front page of a well known Hi-Fi magazine. Use your favourite graphics software to put an image of your speakers onto that page. Add some text, ie '5-Star T-Horns best we ever reviewed!' and add that image to the Ebay listing. (I am an honest chap really )
I agree that DIYers may see them and realise their true value but then they are the ones likely to build their own anyway. The rest of the buyers are slaves to the Hi-Fi media and couldn't possibly have anything in their home that didn't have a 'five-star' rating somewhere. Sad but true!
Here's a tip (but you didn't hear it from me
). Scan in the front page of a well known Hi-Fi magazine. Use your favourite graphics software to put an image of your speakers onto that page. Add some text, ie '5-Star T-Horns best we ever reviewed!' and add that image to the Ebay listing. (I am an honest chap really )
There'd be nothing to stop you from adding a name plate of a company you could register (and that itself is optional) to the cabinets, and advertising or selling with a phrase like 'custom built / hand-crafted by (insert name of preference here).'
Dishonest? Not in the least. That's how 90% of the legendary UK cottage hifi industry (which dwindled a bit at the start of the 1990s, tragically) began. And a few are starting to crop up again, which I for one, am delighted to see.
If you made a habit of it, then of course you'd probably have to set up a small business plan etc, I'm no legal expert, and probably do something like Bob Brines / Ed Schilling has done for your own designs, but for the odd one-off, it shouldn't matter, and would at least be likely ro add a nice sense of security for the buyer. Just a thought.
Cheers
Scott
Dishonest? Not in the least. That's how 90% of the legendary UK cottage hifi industry (which dwindled a bit at the start of the 1990s, tragically) began. And a few are starting to crop up again, which I for one, am delighted to see.
If you made a habit of it, then of course you'd probably have to set up a small business plan etc, I'm no legal expert, and probably do something like Bob Brines / Ed Schilling has done for your own designs, but for the odd one-off, it shouldn't matter, and would at least be likely ro add a nice sense of security for the buyer. Just a thought.
Cheers
Scott
I'd say this is not necessarily true, note the Hornshoppe Horns. Some rear loaded horns are made to be put near corners to enhance the bottom end. Obviously careful balance is required, but a large room isn't a necessity. However, I would say it somewhat requires available corners. Then again, I could be wrong about that.
In general, I think front firing speakers, be they rear horns or bass reflex, are easier to place than rear firing speakers. Then again, I'm guessing the speakers in question would have a different flavor if they fired out the front instead of the rear. Only one way to find out...
My 2 cents,
I had made a back-loaded horn(subwoofer) way back in 1987-88 or so.
The front of the driver fires out directly, the back is horn-loaded but also fires out in the same face as the drivers front.
I found that there is a definite augmentation of the low-end when the speaker was made to fire into a corner of the room.
The best low-end response was acheived by trial and error; pushing the speaker enclosure into or out of the corner.
I couldn't measure electronically but to the ear the sound was sweet and smooth; the design was for a low-end roll-off of about 50Hz(if my memory is right).
Francis
I had made a back-loaded horn(subwoofer) way back in 1987-88 or so.
The front of the driver fires out directly, the back is horn-loaded but also fires out in the same face as the drivers front.
I found that there is a definite augmentation of the low-end when the speaker was made to fire into a corner of the room.
The best low-end response was acheived by trial and error; pushing the speaker enclosure into or out of the corner.
I couldn't measure electronically but to the ear the sound was sweet and smooth; the design was for a low-end roll-off of about 50Hz(if my memory is right).
Francis
I will stop after this one because it starts to be over my poor knowledge and understanding.
Seems to me that, unlike TL or vented charge, the horn construction hasn't for only purpose to improve the low-end response.
Why don't you have a look to this very interesting website :
Single driver website
PS : perhaps I am wrong but I think that the permanent resident horn gurus have a problem regarding the "commercial" aspect of your request.
Hornshoppe Horns
I've read positive reviews of the horns. Very positive. Check out the links below. I don't think you're off the mark with what you're doing, though it may be helpful to read through these. Enjoy!
http://www.thehornshoppe.com/reviews.html
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/spea...eakers/the-hornshoppe/PRD_124543_1594crx.aspx
I've read positive reviews of the horns. Very positive. Check out the links below. I don't think you're off the mark with what you're doing, though it may be helpful to read through these. Enjoy!
http://www.thehornshoppe.com/reviews.html
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/spea...eakers/the-hornshoppe/PRD_124543_1594crx.aspx
It is a good project
Layertone:
I believe that it is a good project and IMO the price is correct.
Personally I don’t like the lateral decoration but I like the general aspect.
The constructive system is similar to this?
http://www.spnet.ne.jp/~hasehiro/product/backroadhorn.html
I always liked because it has a very smooth route.!!!!!
I have a horn with mouth backwards and am satisfied, but the room is 6.00m x 4.50m.
The horn has many cavities. Exists an opening to fill up?
best regards Jaime
Layertone:
I believe that it is a good project and IMO the price is correct.
Personally I don’t like the lateral decoration but I like the general aspect.
The constructive system is similar to this?
http://www.spnet.ne.jp/~hasehiro/product/backroadhorn.html
I always liked because it has a very smooth route.!!!!!
I have a horn with mouth backwards and am satisfied, but the room is 6.00m x 4.50m.
The horn has many cavities. Exists an opening to fill up?
best regards Jaime
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