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Old 24th October 2019, 06:23 PM   #21
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The more I look at the TB W8-1808 the more I think it would be a good choice. It is 93db efficient so I should be able to drive it well with my GM70 SET amp. It puts out 18wpc.
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Tang Band W8-1808.
They are nice, but kinda coloured. I prefer the A10.3/A10p which new cost less.

I have designed a monster miniOnken for them.

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Old 24th October 2019, 07:36 PM   #23
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...TB W8-1808... It is 93db efficient
That is a bit optimistic. They measure at 90dB.

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Old 24th October 2019, 07:57 PM   #24
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Thanks Dave. I'm going to find guys in my area who run full range and do some listening.
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That's great since you can do it, you're lucky, most don't have those kinds of opportunities
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Old 24th October 2019, 08:11 PM   #26
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djn - sounds like a major change in direction from your previous system(s), so to provide meaningful suggestions it would probably be helpful to start with a bit more data:
- when you say “loud”, can you define exactly what kind of SPLs you’re talking about?
- how large is the room, and is most of the listening done from a “sweet spot” position, or is it for a larger, less actively engaged audience?
- budget?

If you’re happy with the performance of existing woofers/subs, and they are smooth well into the mid hundreds of Hz, it is very possible to get great synergy with a nominally 4” - 6” FR driver, particularly if actively high passed to eliminate excursion related distortion at higher SPLs.
I’ve not heard the W1808, but have heard the W1772, and found it even to have even more nasal coloration than Fostex FE206.
If not yet on your short list for consideration, you might want to look at the FF165WK, MA Alpair 10Pm or Pluvia 11. The first two are paper, (Fostex WK series have an interesting metal elliptic dome dust cap/ tweeter), while the Pluvia is a low profile thin metal alloy cone with excellent HF response.
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If you crossover around approx 100Hz, both the fullranges and the subs can be positioned in your room optimally.
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(Fostex WK series have an interesting metal elliptic dome dust cap/ tweeter)
Not really an ellipse, a dome with a (vertical) ridge in it to siffen it up. IIRC first seen on some of their special edition drivers.

Here a set of urgandy (a bright red + the grey FF cone colour) FF165wKeN (EnABLed FF165wk):

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...and do some listening.
Very good idea.

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I've looked at all these drivers and on paper they look good. I run 4 subwoofers now and I may pair that down to 2 subs so the drivers don't need to go down really low. All my subs can run up to 300hz and still sound great.

when I look at the smaller drivers I wonder if they can get loud. I don't listen to music really loud most of the time but there are times when I want to rock out. Enlighten me: can a three inch driver rock out?
If you want to rock out, check out the PRV 5MR450NDY. It is 95dB sensitive and can handle 225wrms. It is a 5in though and really does shine for clean clear and loud. Does not do bass though so needs a helper woofer.

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PRV 5MR450-NDY for FAST/WAW applications

Put it behind a tractrix horn and it will really rock out with ultralow distortion as only tens of micrometers of cone movement needed for 100dB sound levels.
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