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Old 14th March 2019, 07:13 PM   #51
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but I can't source any gold drivers
I have a few copper left. Still need treating and matchin ginto pairs. If you are willin gto pay the extra i could probably supply 3 pair (but not soon — 4 surgeries in 2 months coming up, one of them major — will slow me down. Madisound claims to have some too.

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Old 14th March 2019, 07:29 PM   #52
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I once had alpair 12p and also owned kef ls50

id say that overall, both sucks
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Old 14th March 2019, 07:36 PM   #53
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the Alpairs really did not live up to hype around here and the measurements I've done agree.
Thanks for the measurements. I agree with you these drivers are nothing special.
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Old 15th March 2019, 10:15 AM   #54
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Go with the Alpair 7's if you can. Before they are all sold out (now out of production). We run ours in a little sealed 11l box and they sound amazing. I think night and day better than the KEF's but I haven't done a fair comparison, only hearing the KEF's at bad and noisy hi-fi rooms.

Did you say you're in wales? If you want to build really nice boxes, really easily, check out Avon Plywood and their cutting service.

We use Valchromat for ours and it works well. You can see a few on our instagram @ootwdesignstudio. In fact I think I have about 3 cabinets for the Alpair 7 in parts but ready to be built up, but I can't source any gold drivers and not too keen on the silvers, so they will probably go in the fire in the next few months, if you want a pair let me know.
Beautiful work on your instagram page. I've just enrolled in college for bench joiner course in the hopes to do something similar to you in the future. In fact i'm pretty surprised and a bit disheartened the similarities .

Yes i'm in wales and have heard about Avon Plywood i'll check there site out thanks.

I think the 7 would be a good place to start in regards to price performance. I have some concerns regarding them being delicate. I have kids in the house.

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Old 15th March 2019, 11:25 AM   #55
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Thanks for the measurements. I agree with you these drivers are nothing special.
Nothing special?

I think the massive breakup at 1.5kHz, and the dip at 6.2kHz (cone shape?) are pretty special.

Add the fact that they drop like a brick at 12kHz, and that being on axis?

I thought I remembered seeing that FR response before, I wasn't sure where.
Good to know. Maybe why they are discontinued?

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Old 15th March 2019, 12:14 PM   #56
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Nothing special?

I think the massive breakup at 1.5kHz, and the dip at 6.2kHz (cone shape?) are pretty special.

Add the fact that they drop like a brick at 12kHz, and that being on axis?

I thought I remembered seeing that FR response before, I wasn't sure where.
Good to know. Maybe why they are discontinued?

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ok maybe i won't buy them then!
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Old 15th March 2019, 01:43 PM   #57
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I have both, the KEF's are a little tweaked and the Alpair 7.3s are in a small, low diffraction bass reflex. Its unfair to say one presentation is better than the other, they are just different. Chocolate or strawberries? They are both very nice, you have to choose which set of compromises suit you best, both come with their own sound. Both are thoroughly musical and engage me, but the LS50's are my default preference in MY room with MY setup. I have heard the LS50's sound really very ordinary many times. They only sing with a top flight source and capable amp. Don't even think about less than 100W. The Alpairs are much more easy going.

LS50 Pros:

Good tonal balance, good downward dynamic range, very good soundstage width and depth. Decent bass extension. Amazing integration for a multiway speaker. HF resolution better than the Alpair.

LS50 Cons,

Bass can be a little one note. Slightly dark tonal balance. Not quite as coherent through the midrange as the Alpair.

Alpair Pros

Totally coherent presentation through the mid. Tuneful bass. Very good downward dynamic range. Good image width.

Alpair Cons


Limited bass reach. Needs a wall nearby to sound tonally balanced. HF detail not as good as the LS50. Soundstage not as deep as LS50.
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Old 15th March 2019, 02:46 PM   #58
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I have some concerns regarding them being delicate. I have kids in the house.
They are very easy to dent. You will need to cover them.

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I would remind people that having seen many measures of these drivers and they all have differences. I would not put any weight on 1 particular measure — keep in mind that if you want something different looking move the mic 1". The one shown is one of th eleast representitive i have seen. I hold to what Floyd Tole says — any measurement taken outside an anechoic chamber is suspect (he used stronger words) and even those can be misleading.

The A7 has some peakiness off-axis. If you move off-axis it dissappears and if you are older you won’t hear it anyway. They have really good midrange with a high DDR and the seamlessness that comes with most FRs and is so often missing once an XO is put into the critical range.

Trust your ears.

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