What sort of f3 would you expect from the mltl / Pensil 11ms?
Toole has shown that F3 is a meaningless number to humans. I’d guess these reach into the low 30s F10 anechoic.
To give a better estimate i’d need to see Scott’s sims, i have only seen Scott’s Windows Paint pre-cursor drawings of the Sea Stack MLTL, which suggest that anechoic F6 is 36 Hz. In room the low frequencies should be lifted (on average, room modes will come into play) how much depends on the room, room placement and how much stuffing is put into the line (after many Scott builds we typically start with 2/3rds the recommended amount qnd that is how much we used in our build).
I’d say that from our listening so far, this is a very good box/driver combo.
Pensils typically are not targeted for maximum LF response, instead aiming for a strong mid/upper bass (40-160 Hz) response (pro alignment) where most of what we think of as bass occurs.
dave
To give a better estimate i’d need to see Scott’s sims, i have only seen Scott’s Windows Paint pre-cursor drawings of the Sea Stack MLTL, which suggest that anechoic F6 is 36 Hz. In room the low frequencies should be lifted (on average, room modes will come into play) how much depends on the room, room placement and how much stuffing is put into the line (after many Scott builds we typically start with 2/3rds the recommended amount qnd that is how much we used in our build).
I’d say that from our listening so far, this is a very good box/driver combo.
Pensils typically are not targeted for maximum LF response, instead aiming for a strong mid/upper bass (40-160 Hz) response (pro alignment) where most of what we think of as bass occurs.
dave
Was queued but not sent. On its way missing whatever i was looking to add when i lost the thread.
dave
Thanks looking forward to it.
Ugh.. I couldn't resist. Reached out to Madisound to see about placing a preorder.
Dave, shot you an email as well regarding Mar-Kens for the 11MS. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Best,
Steven
Z, were you given any pricing or expected delivery dates from Madisound? When I inquired it wasn't yet nailed down. I'm sure we're all anxious to know!
Sticking them up here for completeness as this has become the default thread for the 7MS & 11MS at the moment. See posts 33 https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/ful...-fostex-tb-dayton-seas-etc-2.html#post5554175 & 34 https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/ful...-fostex-tb-dayton-seas-etc-2.html#post5554180 for further details.
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Not sure. If I have time before I lose my internet access on the 25th I'll check. It won't be optimal.
Why are you losing your access???
Nothing exciting, I'm just having to cut back on expenses for a while. I'll be able to get on occasionally from my office (I'm not currently a paid member of staff, but I do have a lovely office in one of the most beautiful buildings in the area, which isn't bad going. ).
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