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Old 16th February 2018, 09:04 PM   #51
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I imagine you also wouldn't want to push maximum xmax to start, go off for several hours and come back to a looser suspension having smacked the VC to death in your absence.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 02:10 AM   #52
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Hi Dave,

Can't seem to find the link in P10: Alpair 10 Gen. MAOP Prototype TW-1

I was able to get a 1st Gen MAOP driver and its on its way for delivery. Just wanted to get more info on the results or performance of the MAOP drivers. I intend to switch it with my Alpair 10.3M in an FHXL box that I am currrently using.

Hoping that I would be getting an improvement on the MAOP drivers.

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Not all of these threads were lost, just archived. Mark deleted a lot of the threads before leaving, but i found 2 relevant threads and have moved them to the P10 forum:

Enabling, MAOP on Markaudio drivers
Alpair 10 Gen. MAOP Prototype TW-1

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Old 2nd October 2018, 03:45 AM   #53
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......with Fostex drivers, but the ones I've heard behave gracefully enough when pushed beyond Xmax......but they handle dynamically rich music quite well IMO.
Indeed they do; original driver designs all had under hung motors, so while Xmax could be as little as near zero there was often quite a lot of usable travel before the VC left the gap, so created a fairly euphonic distortion as its effective motor strength [Qts] weakened with increasing excursion, reshaping the driver's response to something akin to adding a progressive baffle step compensation [BSC].

Not nearly as accurate a reproducer as power requirements go up, but overall I much prefer them if for no other reason than I can hear where the driver limits are whereas the CSS/MA drivers there's no warning, just a 'clang' when the VC bounces off the back plate.

Fortunately, the few pairs I have 'clanged' repeatedly are very well constructed with no obvious change in performance, but sooner or later if I don't do something to protect them..........

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Old 2nd October 2018, 03:48 AM   #54
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Can't seem to find the link in P10: Alpair 10 Gen. MAOP Prototype TW-1
The link works for me.

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Old 2nd October 2018, 03:53 AM   #55
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Not for me. I get a message "Invalid Thread specified."

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Old 2nd October 2018, 04:12 AM   #56
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Metal more detailed than paper?
Really depends on the coating/doping, though based on this response plot on Madisound, it's more so due to its coating and what I consider excessive sibilance, a common way to make a driver sound more detailed, etc., and excessively shrill, piercing to folks like me with a fairly strong tinnitus.

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Can't seem to find the link in P10: Alpair 10 Gen. MAOP Prototype TW-1
Me neither, only the enabling one works and when I search '194359' in the vendor forums it only returns this link, which of course is gone: https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/mark...pe-tw-1-a.html

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CSS FR125S 'fullranger' anything comparable?
I don’t know what to say… this is what i get.

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Caches?

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Old 2nd October 2018, 03:58 PM   #59
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Yeah, after I posted I remembered that sometimes when I post an old link I find it had come from 'somewhere' in my computer with no way to make it 'live' unless already in the web archive, which in this case is only the 'invalid kink' page.

So, anyway to somehow make it 'live' again even if just in the archive?

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CSS FR125S 'fullranger' anything comparable?
As far as my browser is concerned it is active in the P10 forum.

OK, just checked in another browser, when i am not logged in as a moderator it shows up as invalid. I’ll do some deeper checking.

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