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Old 23rd November 2017, 06:14 PM   #1
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Default Audio Nirvana Classic 8 Ferrite vs. Mark Audio Alpair 12P

Probably both have strengths and weaknesses. I have some experience with Mark Audio Alpair 7.3, 10.2 and 10.3. Not favorable with the metal cone A10s.

My use would be as a driver for a FAST system. My preferences are for a precise image, large soundstage, sharp dynamics and smooth response. 95% classical music with a little classic rock and jazz. Nothing loud, but I want the dynamic range available to do so.
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Old 23rd November 2017, 06:51 PM   #2
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I can't speak re the Audio Nirvana, but as to the Alpair12 -if not the PW (woofer) version, in a manageably small box they won't deliver much bottom end, but with help below, say 200-300?, I think you'd be fine. What bass drivers would you be thinking of using?

And I think scottj would chastise me for not reminding you to abandon the FAST acronym and get with the times, mate - WAW is what it is - until it's something else.
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2-way, like it always used to be?
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Well, just with crossover frequencies 2 or 3 octaves lower than would normally be the case with a 1" dome tweeter.
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Well, just with crossover frequencies 2 or 3 octaves lower than would normally be the case with a 1" dome tweeter.
I'm partial to crossing 1in domes at 1.2KHz or <. Granted, not many can manage that, and the filters don't exactly fall under the dictionary definition of 'minimalist'.
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Audio Nirvana Classic 8 Ferrite vs. Mark Audio Alpair 12P
I have the AN15" and it's superb. But looking at the AN8" ferrite - I don't like the ragged treble response in the FR plot. I believe that at the 8" size you'd have to spend big $$ for the Alnico classic 8+ to get really good results. But if you can justify a larger driver then I'd suggest considering their 12" super ferrite - still not smooth FR plot but closer to what I have with the AN15"super ferrite (no longer available). At that point, you may not need a supporting woofer.
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I've heard the AN Classic 8" Ferrite just sitting out unenclosed with 20uf in series. Fairly impressive. But I've been considering an Alpair 10P of Alpair 12P for some time. Was curious how the drivers compared to each other. Whatever I choose would end up replacing a combination of a Satori 6 1/2" woofer with a Seas H1189 tweeter currently being used for reproduction above ~600Hz or so (1st order crosovers). Big woofer system below.
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Audio Nirvana Classic 8 Ferrite vs. Mark Audio Alpair 12P
I can’t speaker for the Audio Nirvana (althou i have a 10” Classic heaed my way for treatment), but the A10p goes lower, higher, and has greater DDR than the A12p. Except for going higher, the same can be said for the A12pw.

The A10p is cheaper too.

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I think Dave might mean the A12P (i.e, original full-range version) goes higher than the A12Pw - but not lower than the PW or either of the A10s - at least in a "manageable" sized box? That's certainly been my own take on the several models in question, each of which I've heard in a couple of different designs.
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