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Old 24th July 2017, 10:20 PM   #11
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GDO; you should chat with Colin about the recent (5yrs or so) rocky history of the brand, and the provenance of current production. Back to the topic of Lowthers, yes- neutral or tonally balanced would not be in the lexicon I'd use to describe any I've ever heard, and my personal brass ring chasing days are a but faint reflection in my rear view mirror.

Scott; if your query in post #7 above was directed at me - yes, I've heard a few Lowthers at several shows - the most recent almost a decade ago now - but never in a local home environment. To be honest, a couple of those were interesting - most notably the highly modified drivers in an early Rethm model, but none were life-changing.
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Old 24th July 2017, 10:24 PM   #12
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Thanks, yes it was.
I know the history with the Eikona etc. is complex, I remember Colin saying something about lowther not being able to cope in some way. Anyhow, yes OT
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Old 24th July 2017, 10:54 PM   #13
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were being built to order at the time, I wonder if that was Lowther
Yes. 1st gen built by Lowther.

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Old 24th July 2017, 11:10 PM   #14
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I have had one experience hearing PM-6A in Acousta (I think) horns driven by an SE amp from Seattle, forgotten the name...I would call them lively, engaging, not over-rated but wanting a proper room. Not a "shouty" combination.
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Old 24th July 2017, 11:24 PM   #15
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To echo Chrisb's words, Lowthers are definitely an acquired taste.

When I was living in a Chicago suburb more than 10 years ago, I listened to the first Lowther system I'd ever seen at a gathering of some audio nuts in the Chicago area. I was not smitten by the sound, because to my ears there was something off about the frequency response. Later, the Chicago audio nuts met at the house of the owner of another Lowther system several times, so I became somewhat more "acquainted" with the Lowther sound. I was somewhat impressed by how detailed/dynamic the Lowther speakers sounded on certain tracks, but wondered whether the sense of details came from the frequency response imbalance -- over-emphasized midrange and low treble. It was not what I'd call "realism" or "neutrality." I recall sitting there listening to the tracks (one featuring a baby making some noise and another being a cello solo piece that sounded as if the microphone was placed right on the bridge), and thinking about an analogy of looking at the leg of a grasshopper through a microscope -- the details and the heightened sense of colors and contrast may be very impressive and gratifying, but that's not the image we see with naked eyes. I always wondered how the Lowthers would sound if they are EQ'ed flat. Would doing so take away the "magic" that many Lowther owners hear?

I have been playing with full-rangers on OBs augmented by woofers or subwoofers for a long time, by the way. If I have to live with only one such system using drivers I own and have tried, I'd pick Fostex FX120 or Tang Band W5-2143. Just my two cents.

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Old 25th July 2017, 01:03 AM   #16
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just noticed the poll added to this thread - there's definitely a very wide DMZ between the binary choices listed, but at the very least -
C) - only YOUR ears can tell, or some such waffling
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Old 25th July 2017, 01:17 AM   #17
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Need advice, should I jump into Lowther league?
Thank you for your all responses, I have added a poll to make it easier on overall opinion. from other forum like audiocircle or audiogon, it seems that lowther also has it's lover or hater.

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If nothing else, Lowthers are definitely an acquired taste, and I think you'd want to hear a properly designed system using them before deciding to join that club.

I'd dare say that to replace the 12" woofer and compression driver horn mid/tweeter in pictured system would be a very heavy lift for any Lowther, AER or equivalent full-range driver, and would certainly require major reworking of XO and tailoring of system gain settings.
at this moment, no one from my audio friend who owns lowther yet. I'm trying to reach out on my colleague who might have known someone who allow me to listen to his lowther. my thought that lowther will has no xo at all, only a helper by t90a+1uf.

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Have you heard them? I've fantasized about them since I was a small boy! Anyone near me have any I can listen to? Certainly wouldn't entertain buying any without a listen, doubt they're as good as my Eikonas anyway
I have Alpair 10p which was easily kicked by 12" PA driver + tweeter, also borrowed Fostex 206En from my friend and I can say that A10p is better than 206En. Also listened to 103 SOL or sigma series, yeah this tiny baby only good at very low volume of my reference. crank it up and it will scream badly.

too bad that you can not easily find a store that sell fullrange driver, totally different with branded speaker. once i had visited medium end speaker store with around $5k price tag. with the sales guy keep on talking how good the speaker, my mind said 'is that it?'. Also had a trip to a shopping mall and i was surprised to find a store who sell Fonus Faber floorstand and its kind ultra high gear, I just bravely say "It's not good, very bad" because my wallet will never reach this league
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Old 25th July 2017, 12:04 PM   #18
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just noticed the poll added to this thread - there's definitely a very wide DMZ between the binary choices listed, but at the very least -
C) - only YOUR ears can tell, or some such waffling
it is very strange that i can not edit poll option, yes agree 3rd option will be about in the middle 50/50 which will need to listen first. but at the end it will be about to buy it or not
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Old 25th July 2017, 03:19 PM   #19
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Scottmoose, when you say Acquired Taste, what response does a lowther have?
rising high end, great midrange or more bass.
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Old 25th July 2017, 04:17 PM   #20
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Definitely a lot of the first, with more of a roller coaster ride along the way than many folks - myself included -can abide for long

Midrange is very dynamic and forward - perhaps "great" ? but see above

more bass? - most definitely not
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