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Old 11th January 2016, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default Markaudio Alpair-10M 5.25" gen 3 compared to 10P

I know this is a difficult question but what are the sound differences between the Markaudio Alpair 10M and 10P?

My intention is to put them in a properly tuned bass reflex cabinet, but then again there is probably not so much difference in the low end.

My amplifier is an Ortofon KS601.

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Old 11th January 2016, 09:44 PM   #2
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The metal cone is capable of going a bit lower than the paper cone. The biggest differences are really in the top thou, with the paper cone having a more vintage top end. The paper about 2.5 dB more sensitive than the metal.

The metal does need some serious break-in to become its best, and at that point it really is a case of 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.

My personal preference is for the paper by a tiny bit, and i seems too of those who come over for a listen.

The amplifier a PP EL84?

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Thanks Dave,

Another unit I have thought of is the Fostex 165WK. How does that compare to the Markaudio Alpair 6"?

My Ortofon is PP 6963.

It has been sitting on the shelf for years and I think I better replace all the electrolytics before firing it up. Bit of a shame though, since it for the most have the original Jensen Capacitor caps.

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The metal cone is capable of going a bit lower than the paper cone. The biggest differences are really in the top thou, with the paper cone having a more vintage top end. The paper about 2.5 dB more sensitive than the metal.

The metal does need some serious break-in to become its best, and at that point it really is a case of 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.

My personal preference is for the paper by a tiny bit, and i seems too of those who come over for a listen.

The amplifier a PP EL84?



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FF165wk is different, but a direct competitor to the A10s. I, and others, think the A10s have the edge overall sonically but that FF165wk might be a better choice for those whose diet is primarily rock'n'roll.

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Will the Frugel horn XL be optimally suitable for the 10M?

I understand that the XL was designed for the 10P.
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The FHXL works great with A10.3. Like the smaller Frugel-Horns they accomodate a wide range of drivers.

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We constructed a trio of XLs - for both flavors of the Alpair10 as well as the FF165WK. As Dave noted, the Fostex's characteristic tonality and dynamic "jump" factor might be a better choice for rock'n'roll - of which I don't consume much by choice these days. I find it harder to choose between the two Alpairs in this design, but would maybe give the paper the slight edge.
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I now have drivers for both the 10P and 10M.

Should I build the XL and tune the internal stuffing for one driver type, can I just change and plug in the other driver without the need for adjusting the internal stuffing?
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For those 2 drivers, damping is quite close for both.

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I now have drivers for both the 10P and 10M.

Should I build the XL and tune the internal stuffing for one driver type, can I just change and plug in the other driver without the need for adjusting the internal stuffing?
Would you mind to share your impression of 10P vs 10M? I am facing the same dilemma, though I am considering sealed enclosures. Thanks!
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