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Old 13th March 2015, 03:07 AM   #41
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Freddi, which did you like best, L Cao or the Fane ?
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Old 13th March 2015, 04:33 AM   #42
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That'd be an apples to oranges comparison.

a 6.5" no whizzer against a double whizzered 12.
A 12" has what, 4 times the cone area ?

I do like the paper cone in the fane, some are unliking kevlar / paper mixtures.

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Old 13th March 2015, 09:35 AM   #43
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with some hd595, you can hear good voice, and a bit of lift past 1khz, and way up too.
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good bump, not much thump (below 100hz).

Should be real fun for not much money !!!!!!
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Old 13th March 2015, 12:56 PM   #44
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hi Bigun - - like them both for different reasons and would depend upon how each were loaded. The Fane will of course move more air and has an overall likable and wide range character - it has the highs missing from 12LTA - L.Cao is a small driver but a bit larger Sd than an Alpair12 - with beautiful midrange and probably smoother sounding highs than the Fane. I would guess the Fane to be a good choice all by itself for open baffle for larger rooms.

it will be good to have Norman's feedback - although there was no bass with the Fane stuffed into a Karlson12 with vent damped with bonded Dacron, I noticed it got some toe-tapping going. Don't know how it would do without the Karlson cavity and aperture. I need to make some 15" to 12 and 10" adapters for my only sturdy & handy single reflex box - RCA Fan's "V-vent"

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Old 13th March 2015, 03:26 PM   #45
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... L.Cao is a small driver but a bit larger Sd than an Alpair12 - with beautiful midrange and probably smoother sounding highs than the Fane.
Thanks Freddi - this is helpful.

And your comment is consistent with a comment I read from Nelson about the L Cao. My ears do appreciate smooth highs for long-time listening - I discovered from my experience with a Fostex driver that I like their 'presence' but it isn't something I can listen to for long periods.

I don't suppose you've heard the L Cao 8" in comparison with the Fane (a bit closer in Sd) ?

You also mentioned the A12 - is this a driver you have auditioned too ?
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Old 13th March 2015, 03:48 PM   #46
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no exper.ience with A12 -its tempting. no experience with L.Cao 8s - its said the alnico version is "soft" on top. I think the ferrite 8 is out of production (?)
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I haven't seen anybody talk about a ceramic L Cao 8 so perhaps they are no-more. Your comments on the L Cao 6.5" were with ceramic not AlNiCo ?

The A12 is an unknown to me too but I've been interested in it since hearing the A10.3 - I would have liked to see a larger driver from MA something in the 6"+ category (A12 is smaller than 6") hence my interest in what people are saying about the Fane.
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yeah - F6 has a ferrite motor - alnico can go either way from good to not so good. I have EV SP12 with the big iron pot alnico motor and never thought anything special in their "tone".
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got a 2'x4' piece of plywood - without resorting to software, what's a good position for a single 12" speaker with the 4' dimension vertical? - could add a helper woofer

hey Norman - get your Fane yet?
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I would have liked to see a larger driver from MA something in the 6"+ category (A12 is smaller than 6")
Hi Bigun,

According to specss on Madisound, The MA A12 has SD of 147cm^2 which is similar to 6.5" -7" drivers...
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