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Old 12th June 2019, 10:43 PM   #1241
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…. I'd guess the MA A10p would do better on 3wpc but hard to get excited about it after the whole A12p thing...
My 11ms are still waiting for me to get to where i can finish processing them. The FHXLis versatile enuff that A11ms will work fine it — the very similar spec P11 work fine in them.

My room is large and Bernie’s 2A3 SE was a joy to listen to even on the 84 dB EL70 as long as we did not push it to levels typically louder than my regular listening levels.

A10p has been consitenty measured at about 90dB. A12p about a dB more.

A12p thing? AFAIC the A10p is generally preferable. A12p only brings about a dB and more cone area to the party. Everywhere else i prefer the a10p.

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Old 13th June 2019, 02:52 AM   #1242
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WRT cost, the project is not so cheap if I purchase the CNC cut FHXL flat pack. Although, after seeing the build pix in post #1224 by @Trackhappy, FHXL looks rather simple to build from scratch so no real need for me to pay a premium for a flatpack...
These are easily achieveable with a bit of manual work laying out and cutting. I have just finished coating the outside of mine with epoxy as a sealer, which will be sanded back and primed for painting. There is a bit of fiddly measuring to get the angles right, but overall not a difficult build for someone with some woodworking skills. I used only a table saw and jigsaw along with router, and used relatively cheap 18mm C-C finish ply as mine will be painted. I did make sure there would be minimal voids in the ply though. I didn't bother cutting a slot to locate the baffle, just carefully set in place with epoxy and used my square to make sure everything was right.

Having said that, if you can get a flat pack they are awesome to build quickly and accurately. Bevelled edges etc as opposed to my square joins.

My Alpair 10p's arrived (Thanks D'Archer) and thankfully they fitted my pre-routed holes.

Now sanding and painting and sanding and painting for weeks, but after building a boat, I am used to that.

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Old 13th June 2019, 10:06 PM   #1243
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My 11ms are still waiting for me to get to where i can finish processing them. The FHXLis versatile enuff that A11ms will work fine it — the very similar spec P11 work fine in them.

My room is large and Bernie’s 2A3 SE was a joy to listen to even on the 84 dB EL70 as long as we did not push it to levels typically louder than my regular listening levels.

A10p has been consitenty measured at about 90dB. A12p about a dB more.

A12p thing? AFAIC the A10p is generally preferable. A12p only brings about a dB and more cone area to the party. Everywhere else i prefer the a10p.

dave
My pair of A12p drivers sounded mismatched, one "live or hot" the other "flat or neutral", was thinking a break in issue but lost interest when it didn't resolve itself by 300 hours. I also thought it could be from the uneven excess overflow of glue between the voice coil and driver but that theory is neither here nor there.
It is possible I was much too ginger with the break-in and should give them some more time at higher listening levels/greater cone excursion, re-visit the drivers see if I can get them to sound right...

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