people in Japan like the w2-800sl at $25 each, but zero bass (qts = .23 and Fs = 160hz).
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=264-807
No clue on power handling.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=264-807
No clue on power handling.
Try this little bugger......
HiWave BMR12 Compact 2" Full-Range Square Speaker 12W 8 Ohm 297-210
HiWave BMR12 Compact 2" Full-Range Square Speaker 12W 8 Ohm 297-210
edit; the visaton is 90% as good as the TB. a slight touch of that paper cone tweeter sizzle, but its quite benign. The Q is more useful at 0.7 ish, power handling and efficiency is slightly lower than the TB. But, the visaton is a mere 6 euros! I wouldnt use these fullrange using a single driver, neither tolerate bass well, maybe in a small array they could cope at reasonable levels.
Had some fun with a couple of W2-803SM a while ago. Good power handling size considered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUbX4vxk8I&feature=relmfu
well the frs5x and w2 800sl have similar fs of 160 to 200hz (mine were around 190) and similar db/W, IIRC 87db and 89db. For desktop use thats loud enough. However i would HP them to save excursion, where exactly is up to you. Fullrange in a testbox they run out of xmax about 1 watt roughly. For the price the frs5x are great value, the TB are better by a fair bit, BUT at 4 times the price they arent the same value, even if they are cleaner. That hiwave is an unknown to me, but it could be worth a look for sure. Im planning something similar for the 2s i have. HP'd at 500hz boxsim gives about 95db, which should be ok for desktops. Id recommend the visaton if a 2 hole rear mountable option is acceptable, cosmetically the TB are better and have 4 hole mounting. Thats my biggest bug bear with the visaton, the flange is ugly. Hopefully my experiences have made an easier choice for you Bill.
Bill,
Do you refer to a 2" cone (ie a 3") or a nominal 2" (cone ~35mm)?
Zaph did a big compare of 2" & 3" drivers and concluded that the 3" were univerally better than the 2" drivers -- even at the top.
With any of the 2" your XO will need to be >200 Hz, so not really a sub but a woofer required.
I'd recommend the Fostex FF85wk, or for less (money & performance and more bass capability), Aura NS3 or Fountek FR88.
dave
Do you refer to a 2" cone (ie a 3") or a nominal 2" (cone ~35mm)?
Zaph did a big compare of 2" & 3" drivers and concluded that the 3" were univerally better than the 2" drivers -- even at the top.
With any of the 2" your XO will need to be >200 Hz, so not really a sub but a woofer required.
I'd recommend the Fostex FF85wk, or for less (money & performance and more bass capability), Aura NS3 or Fountek FR88.
dave
Hi,
Platon Measurements
Compares a Peerless 2" to the Aura chosen by SL for the Pluto.
3"ers are a better idea for lower crossover points generally.
rgds, sreten.
Platon Measurements
Compares a Peerless 2" to the Aura chosen by SL for the Pluto.
3"ers are a better idea for lower crossover points generally.
rgds, sreten.
The Aurasound whisper driver of Pluto fame is actually amazing in its bass output abilitities. Just mounted at the end of a long pipe and run fullrange, it sounds balanced and also omnidirectional !! It sure can do the same in a slim ported box
With no bass support only the Aura NS3 sounds the most balanced and is the bass champion. The other two prefer some woofer help
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I agree, 3 inchers are more capable the twos are limited in ultimate SPL, and i thought the peerless a bit dodgy when i looked at the site, although Zaph measures otherwise judging by the data. At the time the 2 inchers i mentioned were the best available to me. As a tweet the W2s are comparable to the W3 1285SG, but the 3s are far more capable and in ways better than the alpair6 i have. The little visaton are good for the cash, and good tweeters. I only offered opinions on what i own, so i dunno bout the fostex. Sreten, im surprised you didnt mention those Logitech. Actually, I dont know why I havent bought some...
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i have no idea. I used to work in a warehouse distributing those harman pc speakers, and a few damages got tested at home. Run without their purpose built amp, they werent the same. Id get a fair bit of active EQ is used in their package. The frs5x represent unbeatable performance value ratio, theyre not perfect but they are very nicely balanced indeed.
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