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planet10 19th October 2014 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bare (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/172605-frugel-horn-mk3-post4093467.html#post4093467)
Tube amps with little to No damping (most all of them ?) make full rangers seem to produce far more bass than when SS amp powered.

For every loudspeaker system the amplifier will have an optimum output impedance (damping). The ability to change the FH3 damping is used to adjut the speaker to room, driver, taste, and amplifier.

Your statement applies to all speakers (if we ignore the far to general nature of your comment)

dave

mikejennens 19th October 2014 10:37 PM

Just a bit of info... I took these to the IowaDIY speaker show on October 18th (SHOW INFO | Midwest Audio Club). This show is attended by some very talented speaker builders. These builders almost always build multi-way speakers. Typically not a lot of interest in single driver configuration. The FH3s were very well received. I think a lot of the regulars were pleasantly surprised by what they heard. In my honest opinion, the FH3's easily held their own against all other speakers. But I'm sure that doesn't come as a surprise. There were two other full range configs this year too: a Cyburg's Needle and a full range with the Dayton PS-220-8 8" driver. All three builds were well received. Not that these need validation, but I just thought some might find it interesting.
I just wanted to pass that on.

zacster 20th October 2014 01:46 AM

Just scored some material to build a pair of FH's.

Actually, I bought a foldout couch at Ikea for my daughter's dorm suite and the box it came in would easily make a pair from extra heavy cardboard. I was going to build a pair of Mets for her, but instead built a box out of foamcore that sounds pretty good with a pair of FE126e's in it. I'm going to use my Rat Shack 40-1041 drivers in the Frugels, really just to see how they'll sound. And if it sounds good I have my eyes on the Alpair 7.3.

Maybe I'll build something real someday, I've been on the fence with everything, but time is not on my side. If I can't finish it in an afternoon it just doesn't happen, and not just with audio.

jemraid 20th October 2014 07:52 AM

Hello Zac,

I made my FH3's in one hour stints, took me a few weeks to build them. I started on both of them at the same time and did the same bit to each one each day. It soon goes and I could plan what I was going to do the next day and look forward to it.

Cheers - Jim

Ultralight 20th October 2014 11:56 AM

$10K???!!

I would be ecstatic if it does better than the 'lowly' KEF LS50 at $1k+ street pricing.

UL

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Originally Posted by planet10 (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/172605-frugel-horn-mk3-post4091988.html#post4091988)
A more or less useless consideration. There are no tandards for this specification, and too much power is better than too little. I generally say minimum 10 w but people are happily using them with 2A3 SE,

As to valur mismatch, you can find $10k speakers on the high street that are not as good as FH3 with A7

dave


Ultralight 20th October 2014 11:58 AM

LOL. While it does get warm, I have not noticed it to be unbearable but then I live in a relatively cool area. Perhaps in the winter I'll just move it to my bedroom to serve as a heater. :D

UL


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Originally Posted by GM (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/172605-frugel-horn-mk3-post4092953.html#post4092953)
22 W SET?! Does it do double duty as a whole house heater?

GM


doug01n 20th October 2014 06:17 PM

I'm finally hearing my FH3 with the Alpair 7.3.

I don't have pictures of building steps because I didn't build. I exchange my pair of MDF 6mm laser cut BR for this already built and some money from a friend who built it, but changed project for 2-way config with bookshelves.

Here's some pictures. First, one of the speakers:

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The amp: Indeed 2021. Plenty of detail, enough power to drive a party for my apartment hearing levels. I'm pretty satisfied, specially when you look at the nano size of this thing:

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And DAC: Fiio E17 with direct Line Out from L7 accessory.

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I use to play flacs, or Spotify / Deezer in HQ. Enough for my hearing so far. Soundstage is huge. Detail is intense. Dynamics are excelent. Bass is tight and timbre is close enough from real life.

100% satisfied. My many thanks to Dave, Chris and Mark, who made it possible to listen such a wonder in my leaving room, without expending even 250 bucks for this whole set.

Doug

chrisb 20th October 2014 06:32 PM

as Dave would say :)

Scottmoose 20th October 2014 06:34 PM

Indeed. :)

chrisb 20th October 2014 07:08 PM

Indeed, $250 is less than the sales tax on some of the zoom zoom speaker wire considered mandatory for serious systems by one of our local emporiums - more power to them to continue to succeed in today's marketplace.


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