Go Back   Home > Forums > >
Home Forums Rules Articles diyAudio Store Blogs Gallery Wiki Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

please help a noobie
please help a noobie
Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 14th February 2010, 10:03 PM   #1
bigvag is offline bigvag  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Default please help a noobie

I've been into audio for along time mostly car stereo. But since I've grown up and got a house I'm now into home audio. My system right now is B&W cm5's fl and fr. B&W cm center. B&W ds3 surround. It makes a nice sounding ht and does good with music until I put it into 2 channel. I would like to build some dedicated 2 channel speakers. For the drivers I was looking at Alpair drivers. I just dont know the design aspect of the enclosure. Is there plans aready out there and what would you recommend for a nice pair of towers using these brand drivers. Looking for a tweeter, mid and maybe two bass drivers in each.
  Reply With Quote
Old 14th February 2010, 10:36 PM   #2
planet10 is offline planet10  Canada
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
please help a noobie
bigvag,

Some plans listed here on my site, there are some on Mark's site, and some big ones coming soon on the Wodendesign site.

None of these really need tweeters. Woofers, if needed, are usually best placed in a different place than the mains.

My personal favorites are the EL70eN, but then my Alpair7 & Alpair12 are still on the break-in bench.

What kind of budget do you have?

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 12:10 AM   #3
bigvag is offline bigvag  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Don't really have a budget yet. Just feeling around right now. However I think I put this in the wrong forum I'm looking for more than one driver in the towers. I checked out your sight alot of usefull info on there.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 12:24 AM   #4
planet10 is offline planet10  Canada
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
please help a noobie
If you are looking at the Alpair, it would be a REAL waste to add a tweeter. Firstly they have better top than many tweeters, and tou would be adding an XO to the mix. Remember XOs are evil.

You could well consider an Alpair 7 used as a mid-tweeter with a woofer crossed over below 400 Hz (less than 300 Hz prefered). This moves the XO into a range where it is MUCH less objectionable.

Have a look at Tysen and follow the links to the spin-offs to get a good idea of what i'm talking about.

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 01:23 AM   #5
bigvag is offline bigvag  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
What i'm looking for is a 2 channel set up that I don't need to add a sub to, or if i do a small one. You seem to know alot about the Alpair what would you build or have you built. I was looking at the Alpair 12 drivers.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 01:46 AM   #6
planet10 is offline planet10  Canada
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
please help a noobie
To extract low bass out of a FR usually means a BIG box. How big can you accomodate?

Alpair 12 either seems to like being in a BIG box or quite a small one.

And what kind of amplifier will you be using?

Note that samll & sub usually means it can't go all that low. Best bass in a room is usually accomplished with multiple woofers not placed in the same place as the mains.

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 03:13 AM   #7
bigvag is offline bigvag  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
I was looking to build the dual column air coupler found on marks page. Amp not sure yet this idea has come to me tonight so I still have alot of research to do. I read that the max rms is 50watts for the 12 so it must be a real efficient speaker. I use emotiva right now for my ht set up.

Last edited by bigvag; 15th February 2010 at 03:36 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 03:48 AM   #8
planet10 is offline planet10  Canada
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
please help a noobie
I couldn't find a dual column air coupler for the A12 on Mark's site. But i know it, i drew the plans and they are on my site. It should be good into the 30s. And the A12 reaches well above 20k.

Ignore power ratings. In the context of home use they are all but meaningless.

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 04:11 AM   #9
bigvag is offline bigvag  United States
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
http://www.markaudio.com/sites/all/f...map-281209.pdf
This is what I was looking at. What are your recommendations for a amp.
  Reply With Quote
Old 15th February 2010, 04:58 AM   #10
planet10 is offline planet10  Canada
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
please help a noobie
Something good (not much help eh )

There is a thread here already on that subject.

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote

Reply


please help a noobieHide this!Advertise here!
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Noobie IDSKoT Introductions 1 6th May 2009 03:44 PM
Noobie needs some design help Marcel_D Solid State 4 17th March 2009 01:03 PM
Please help out a Noobie... audio_moksha Tubes / Valves 13 12th November 2006 11:47 PM
noobie dudemyster Parts 1 22nd January 2004 04:00 PM
Hi from Yet Another Noobie blip Introductions 2 9th March 2003 09:52 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:47 AM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Resources saved on this page: MySQL 15.00%
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ©1999-2018 diyAudio
Wiki