Extinction Level Event: 5G. Death by the trillions

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Regarding greenhouse gas emission- India alone has 400 million + cattle in their country. Each cow emits a lot of methane gas.

Ever wonder how much greenhouse gases are emitted during one volcano eruption? There are 50-7o volcanoes erupting everyday.

Look in your own backyard first.
 
Billshurv. You had time to read at least one peer reviewed study and decide it was "tripe"? I could give plenty of more scientific study references, but it's clear nothing would satisfy you as evidence and you wouldn't bother reading it anyway. Have you got any references to studies proving 5G is safe?
 
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I decided that the website had too strong an agenda (and product to sell) to be a suitable cross section. As I don't keep handy links to these sort of research documents as they are boring and generally have the same conclusion and it would take a couple of hours of my time to locate read and X-ref before I posted no. As a larf I clicked on the first 'P' article. They measured an appartment and found RF in it. woo, yay. At this point I have better things to do such as soldering and sniffing some lovely lead fumes.
 
billshurv. There are no stats about the effects of emf in the field causing ill health and death because no one is looking for it. How many people have cancer these days, often visited upon them out of the blue? Here are some references to peer reviewed studies Scientific studies on EMFs - Powerwatch. There is much more if you choose to look. Lloyds will not insure emf technologies, Swiss Re say "Existing concerns regarding potential negative health effects from electromagnetic fields (EMF) are only likely to increase. An uptick in liability claims could be a potential long-term consequence."
Remember, thermal effects are not the biggest issue because that is more understood and controllable. It's the resonant ,biochemical effects that are the most pernicious. Interference with cell membrane calcium channel voltage gating is an identified mechanism of emf effect that has been identified. This has multiple consequences on cell and tissue metabolism.
Perhaps you can offer some references to independent safety studies for 5G?
Perhaps you should read the author's abstract conclusions before saying the sky is falling.
I read the first 20, found nothing to support your statements.
Thanks for the link, it actually shows you to be way over-reaching.
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First off, that article that the first post inked to if full of misinformation. There is NO WAY that a user worn or hand held device will ever emit 20 watts of RF power on ANY frequency. Why, because it would require a HUGE battery.

The maximum RF power for a current vintage 4G LTE phone is 200 milliwatts. The RF power amp inside runs at about 30% efficiency at full power, and lower efficiency when operating at a lower power. The efficiency is even lower at the 5 to 8 GHz frequency band where the user device will transmit. So to make 20 watts at an efficiency of 20 to 25 % would require a battery of producing 80 to 100 watts of power. The AVERAGE phone transmits for 10% of the time its turned on, and yes, much of this IS "quiet" transmissions between the device and the cell tower giving up your location and a whole lot more. You are already being tracked, and your information is already being sold.

So at a 10% transmission time, your 20 watt phone would need a 8 to 10 watt hour battery for each hour of use.

True, the range of a 5G user device is quite short, so there would need to be a lot more cell sites, each with a low power level, AND they would each need to be able to communicate with each other. The cellular term is backhaul, short for hauling all that data back to the internet backbone. That is where the higher frequencies and power levels come into play. Most of this energy will be aimed at the next tower, not at people.

So, 5G is being rolled out in a few cities around the USA and other countries. We can get shiny new phones that may work on some of these new 5G towers.......

But, we already have a quietly unleashed unnamed network rolled out in most of the USA today with phones available now that function in frequency bands in the 2.4 and 5 GHz spectrum. There are already thousands of microcells broadcasting these evil 5 GHz signals into our bodies, yet nobody is crying foul. I don't even have a compatible phone, yet there is one of these 5 GHz microcells inside my house located about 15 feet from where I'm sitting.

What? How can this be? Does your cable TV company offer "cell" service? Comcast does, and so do several others. Comcast has quietly built out a microcell network using their own cable network for backhaul without building (or leasing) a single tower. All of their newer data / phone modems are microcells. Whenever a Comcast voice phone is within range of a Comcast WiFi signal, it uses that for voice, text and data. That's why even here in small town America, Comcast provides free WiFi along "main street" for any Comcast customer. When that phone wanders far from Comcast WiFi, it roams on Verizon.

There are studies that show that RF exposure is possibly harmful, and those that say it isn't. Truth is, we really don't know, so yes, there is a huge human experiment going on, but I would be far more worried about TV stations with 1 MILLION WATTS of effective radiated power per channel, and other strong RF sources than low powered phones......but then I don't spend much time using my phone.....and I was a cell phone engineer before I retired.
 
Humans have learnt to survive natural disasters like earth quakes, tsunami, Volcano eruptions and major diseases. Other than this only world wars has brought down population.


So to bring down population,.... An unlikely WW3 OR climate control, indirect biological war.


They' have mastered Climate control, new strain of virus testing in Africa, (ebola event.. who went there first? only Military from western country) add 5G to move towards agenda 21 / 2030 for population control. Need additional 500K deaths every day to reach this goal.
No scientific backing for climate change. Only politicians talk about it. Let's wait and see. All credits go to blackmailed politicians who have to push this in place on time.


Around 2024 Saturn, and Jupiter planets align and will stay for a few years pulling earth towards it. Some say this can cause mini ice age which can last some time. And it will affect countries down the north pole. When snow and ice form over large land area, will reduce sea level. (just heard)
 
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:Ohno:
There are so many things that were supposed to kill us all - yet we are still here.

Now, if the poles flip. :yikes:
That is probably the most dangerous thing for all life on this little rock of ours. I wonder how long that process is supposed to take, because that is what generates the magnetosphere that protects us from solar winds and all sorts of radiation.

However, since there is nothing we can do about it, there seems to be little point in worrying about it.
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I guess some of us have decided to leave this life earlier than it would normally take by obsessing over the future. Okay, that's your choice. The cell phones aren't going to hurt you, and people can't scan your bank cards from more than a couple feet. - max! Then the problem would be, which card are they scanning from a line up.

Worry about what matters. Not pent up fears due to a poor understanding of what technology can realistically do and what it can't.

-Chris
 
Relax, a solar flare could fry us all in a few nanoseconds. Or, an asteroid could wipe out the world before or after I post this message. Everyday there is some risk involved with simply living life however you know it.
But this is not about "risks". 5G is well documented by various independent scientific communities to be a true killer. It is not "probability". It is certainty.
It is brain cancer.
And that is just an appetizer before the main course of ailments that will follow.

If in doubt, "ask your chicken in your microwave oven" (trivializing here).
 
Can anybody shed some light as to the "technicalities" of the workings of 5G antennas?

They are supposedly some form of Comb architecture, controllable, with the capability of "directing" , "routing" the beam towards the individual that is using the bandwidth?
As in "following" the customer / chicken, so as to optimize transmission.

How does this work?

If it is indeed true, that the signal / beam can be focused in a specific direction, that would imply that the biological impact is not just alone the "power" of the transmitter.
Because that if indeed the radiation is not "omni-directional", as in loosing signal strength like the reciprocal of the distance to the power three, but as in a directed, focused, concentrated beam, then the energy density does *not* disperse but is maintained at a high concentration level, throughout a big distance.

Engineering inputs - welcome here.
 
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Hey zjjwwa,
You are asking for an entire course on electronics engineering. This isn't going to happen. You're going to have to enroll at a university and take those courses yourself, then learn from working in the industry. Once that has been done, you will understand. If you aren't willing to do this, accept what trained people are telling you. There is no way to explain this to you in any reasonable length of time. And that is assuming that you don't disagree and interrupt.

Be reasonable about what you ask of people. Anyone can demand that we prove something to them, but without an understanding similar to an electronics engineer, you haven't any hope to grasp a simpler explanation.

-Chris
 

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On the other hand, we ARE building ourselves a nice little radiation bubble which we swim around in. Adding to it with every "G"... Maybe a little "precautionary principle" wouldn't hurt - this time. Slow down a bit?

No - what was I thinking.... ;)

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Hey zjjwwa,
You are asking for an entire course on electronics engineering. This isn't going to happen. You're going to have to enroll at a university and take those courses yourself, then learn from working in the industry. Once that has been done, you will understand. If you aren't willing to do this, accept what trained people are telling you. There is no way to explain this to you in any reasonable length of time. And that is assuming that you don't disagree and interrupt.

Be reasonable about what you ask of people. Anyone can demand that we prove something to them, but without an understanding similar to an electronics engineer, you haven't any hope to grasp a simpler explanation.

-Chris
Actually, I worked some time with the industry.
At Motorola.
As for universities - been there.
It is when people start to die around you, for no apparent reasons, as in close friends, and the like, that it makes you wonder.
What I would rather suggest is an entire course in biology and medicine.
Oncology. Neurology. Just to name a few.
 
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