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If there was audible difference, it has nothing to do with the price of cables.
Sounding better to you has no bearing on the evaluation of hi-fi system.
I decided to use "U" connectors instead of the bare wire.
Encouraged by various comments on this thread, I decided to measure the resistance of the "Monster Cable" cable that I have been using for over 40 years and another recently purchased, of unknown origin, both of similar construction and materials, PVC jacket and individual stranded conductors. As you can see from the photos, there is surface rust on the old wire, indicating that they are not OFC.
6 meters (1.83 feet) of the new wire measured exactly the same as the old one, 0.1 Ohm ......
It seemed too high a value to me, the digital multimeter on the 200 Ohm scale had an intermittent reading, it oscillated between .00 and 0.1 ..... So I decided to read a little, and confirmed that it should be much lower, and that I you would need an instrument of superior sensitivity for a correct reading.
For Spanish-speaking readers, I leave an interesting link from 2008, which confirms that this topic is undoubtedly very old, older than me, but unfortunately not as much as I would like ......
Hopefully the GT works for others, it is worth it, especially when the moderator, after scientifically substantiating his first post, at one point responds - about the price of a "special" cable - the following:
..........
" That depends on the hours of use that the cable has.
These cables have a life limit given by the amount of electrons they transported.
After it, the cable, although it does not physically degrade visibly, no longer carries electrons with the same efficiency.
Even in extreme cases, the electrons reach the end of the cable opposite the amplifier, deformed and with little performance similar to what would be "being tired"
The same cable is recoverable, doing a "Reset" of it transporting the same amount of electrons, but in the opposite direction, this procedure is very tedious and extremely expensive.
Some users reverse the sense of the wire every 3-4 days to try to avoid this electron burnout, thus prolonging the life of the wire in good condition.
But this also has its disadvantages, since during the first hours of operation, after the inversion, the electrons move through the wire in a state of "Confusion" due to the change of direction of advance. "
?Sirven para algo los cables especiales para audio? | Pagina 3 | Foros de Electronica
(see post 54 )
Good humor is universal.
Encouraged by various comments on this thread, I decided to measure the resistance of the "Monster Cable" cable that I have been using for over 40 years and another recently purchased, of unknown origin, both of similar construction and materials, PVC jacket and individual stranded conductors. As you can see from the photos, there is surface rust on the old wire, indicating that they are not OFC.
6 meters (1.83 feet) of the new wire measured exactly the same as the old one, 0.1 Ohm ......
It seemed too high a value to me, the digital multimeter on the 200 Ohm scale had an intermittent reading, it oscillated between .00 and 0.1 ..... So I decided to read a little, and confirmed that it should be much lower, and that I you would need an instrument of superior sensitivity for a correct reading.
For Spanish-speaking readers, I leave an interesting link from 2008, which confirms that this topic is undoubtedly very old, older than me, but unfortunately not as much as I would like ......
Hopefully the GT works for others, it is worth it, especially when the moderator, after scientifically substantiating his first post, at one point responds - about the price of a "special" cable - the following:
..........
" That depends on the hours of use that the cable has.
These cables have a life limit given by the amount of electrons they transported.
After it, the cable, although it does not physically degrade visibly, no longer carries electrons with the same efficiency.
Even in extreme cases, the electrons reach the end of the cable opposite the amplifier, deformed and with little performance similar to what would be "being tired"
The same cable is recoverable, doing a "Reset" of it transporting the same amount of electrons, but in the opposite direction, this procedure is very tedious and extremely expensive.
Some users reverse the sense of the wire every 3-4 days to try to avoid this electron burnout, thus prolonging the life of the wire in good condition.
But this also has its disadvantages, since during the first hours of operation, after the inversion, the electrons move through the wire in a state of "Confusion" due to the change of direction of advance. "
?Sirven para algo los cables especiales para audio? | Pagina 3 | Foros de Electronica
(see post 54 )
Good humor is universal.
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Wow, just...wow.I have no words.
Good humor is universal.
I thank you for the laugh...
jn
Yes that is a huge part of it. And I've seen (and been guilty of) it as audio shows, it's just human nature. Hi-Fi stores will be the same.
I still think that Noel Lee has a LOT to answer for.
What the correct "industry-standard specs" are cannot be agreed upon. There's no such thing as 0-0-0 and what objectivist decided inexpensive $150/pr ICs and lamp cord speaker wires have correct "industry-standard specs?" And how did they come to that conclusion? Because it passed sound? Well so does wire coat hangers and I don't see very many objectivists using those! Perhaps lamp cord, which was never actually developed or meant to be used as speaker wires, but rather the cord that connects your lamp to an electrical socket, is really no better or proper as speaker wire than wire coat hangers! Sure both will work in a pinch and pass the sound along, but they just aren't the proper tools for the job. God forbid someone came along and realized they could be improved upon. What was it that really bothered objectivists? The fact that they were referred to as "audiophile" wires or the fact that they cost a bit more to make and hence a bit more to buy? IMHO using a pair of well-made $150 ICs and lamp cord as speaker wires on a high-end audio system to pass the sound optimally, is like trying to dig a built-in swimming pool with a garden shovel...
Thetubeguy1954
Audiophiles and coat hangers:
Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers | Engadget
Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers | Engadget
" That depends on the hours of use that the cable has.
These cables have a life limit given by the amount of electrons they transported.
After it, the cable, although it does not physically degrade visibly, no longer carries electrons with the same efficiency.
Even in extreme cases, the electrons reach the end of the cable opposite the amplifier, deformed and with little performance similar to what would be "being tired"
Good humor is universal.
Is there some form of "cable Viagra" that could be administered to restore flagging interconnects and cure ED (electron disfunction)? Important to quickly make the connections after treatment, before the cables become too stiff to work with though...
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Pano if in fact, you have swapped cables on systems far, far more advanced and resolving than yours, in very good acoustic spaces - and heard only minor differences. Then I simply don't know what to tell you. As for myself, if we use a manual DBT and a regular power cord that's included in the box when you buy an amp, or perhaps even what objectivists refer to as a well-made, properly-designed, $200 power cord, and then install one of those in my system to start with so I can hear it. I will be able to tell you every time, without fail if you have or have not swapped it with either my Sablon Gran Corona or my Snake River Audio Cottonmouth Signature upon listening to my system a second time after the manual DBT switch! Yes, the sonic improvements are that dramatic! And these are not just sonic differences, they are in fact sonic improvements. The differences are so large in fact, that if you looked at me and said you didn't hear a difference I would tell you with no animosity whatsoever, Pano you are either tone-deaf or lying, period. I mean how could you respond to that when you say I hear no or very little difference and I can tell over and over which of the two power cords are in my system? And while I know L/C/R always plays its part but so does the dielectric type & shielding used for insulation, noise rejection, and signal purity. Metal type and purity be it palladium, gold, silver, or copper. Wire type stranded or solid, and quality of the connectors be it RCAs, XLRs, banana plugs, spades etc.
This my friend you'll have to explain in detail to me because I now believe you're just being a condescending, wiseass, which sadly is how most objectivists tend to become when discussing wires with others who oppose their POV! If not, I apologize in advance... Finally, if you ever visit Orlando, FL. let me know and you can come over so I can prove what I'm saying is true to your face!
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