The loudness war....

Empee · 7th September 2007, 09:45 AM

...or how the record industry destroys the music...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ

pinkmouse · 7th September 2007, 11:00 AM

The record industry isn't destroying music, the general public is. If there was a demand for higher quality, the industry would fulfill it. The current driver is downloading and portable media, not accurate reproduction.

Nordic · 7th September 2007, 11:10 AM

So, who do I go demand it from.... I banned my wife from shopping for CD's in the bargain bins.... its just craaaaaaaaaaap

Magura · 7th September 2007, 10:39 PM

You go make the teens ditch their ipods and MP3 players...that's gonna make the industry listen to your demands

Magura

Geek · 7th September 2007, 11:23 PM

Yeah, these teens with their "ZOMG!!!! I CN FIT MILLNZ 96K MP3" is the driving force. Not to mention dollar store earbuds with 100Hz-5KHz response.

I'll admit that those "mix" CD's found in impulse shopping lanes in stores are really badly mixed or recorded, but sound better than a THX mastered recording truncated into an MP3 >.<

jlsem · 8th September 2007, 03:00 AM

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If there was a demand for higher quality, the industry would fulfill it.

The main group of people who demand exceptionally high quality recordings are audiophiles, and we all know they can't be taken seriously.

John

ak_47_boy · 12th September 2007, 01:34 AM

But its not that the CD's are not exceptionally good, its that they are **** poor.

Daveis · 23rd September 2007, 02:21 AM

I am looking for a turntable right now.

As I listen to much 60's and 70's music... my plan is to make my own 24/96 recordings from mint vinyl.

I have a DVD-A made from a quadraphonic Dark Side of the Moon disc. It's actually quite close in quality to the commercial SACD made from another set of tapes.

The difference in volume between CD's made in the 80's and today is amazing.

And it makes me cry that bands that should know better (eg. Rush) allowed their albums to be mastered overly loud.

mpmarino · 23rd September 2007, 03:00 AM

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And it makes me cry that bands that should know better (eg. Rush) allowed their albums to be mastered overly loud.

Yes Yes Yes - I cry about Rush too. The LP and CD of the new album sound identical. It's not the fault of the source type.

I can't believe these 'masterers' can sleep at night. You might as well compress the Mona Lisa into a wallet photo......

Daveis · 23rd September 2007, 03:41 AM

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Originally posted by mpmarino

Yes Yes Yes - I cry about Rush too. The LP and CD of the new album sound identical. It's not the fault of the source type.

I can't believe these 'masterers' can sleep at night. You might as well compress the Mona Lisa into a wallet photo......

Really? I'm double sad then. I just ordered two 180g "audiophile" pressings of the Snakes and Arrows album. While I haven't liked most Rush since they experimented with keyboard. I really think their last album returned to the Rush that fans want.

Saw them live in KC and even the knew stuff sounded great.

So I just wasted money on vinyl albums that sound identical? Great!@!

7th September 2007, 09:45 AM	#1
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7th September 2007, 11:00 AM	#2
pinkmouse diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rotherham, England	The record industry isn't destroying music, the general public is. If there was a demand for higher quality, the industry would fulfill it. The current driver is downloading and portable media, not accurate reproduction. __________________ “One of the poets, whose name I cannot recall, has a passage, which I am unable at the moment to remember, in one of his works, which for the time being has slipped my mind, which hits off admirably this age-old situation.” ― PG Wodehouse

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7th September 2007, 11:10 AM	#3
Nordic diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	So, who do I go demand it from.... I banned my wife from shopping for CD's in the bargain bins.... its just craaaaaaaaaaap

7th September 2007, 11:23 PM	#5
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Yeah, these teens with their "ZOMG!!!! I CN FIT MILLNZ 96K MP3" is the driving force. Not to mention dollar store earbuds with 100Hz-5KHz response. I'll admit that those "mix" CD's found in impulse shopping lanes in stores are really badly mixed or recorded, but sound better than a THX mastered recording truncated into an MP3 >.<

12th September 2007, 01:34 AM	#7
ak_47_boy diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2006	But its not that the CD's are not exceptionally good, its that they are **** poor.

23rd September 2007, 02:21 AM	#8
Daveis diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Des Moines, IA	I am looking for a turntable right now. As I listen to much 60's and 70's music... my plan is to make my own 24/96 recordings from mint vinyl. I have a DVD-A made from a quadraphonic Dark Side of the Moon disc. It's actually quite close in quality to the commercial SACD made from another set of tapes. The difference in volume between CD's made in the 80's and today is amazing. And it makes me cry that bands that should know better (eg. Rush) allowed their albums to be mastered overly loud.