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Old 4th May 2019, 02:01 PM   #1
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I succumbed and purchased a new Hakko 951, the old Hakko works fine but I need two soldering stations, one workshop in OH the other NJ.

A bit disappointed upon first setting up so as a repeated error message S-E appeared and the iron wouldn't heat. A quick call to Hakko and their tech support provided the info.

Turns out that the new tips take a while to seat themselves properly. You have to insert and remove the tip a few times and the error is resolved. The tips themselves have protective sleeves so you don't burn your fingers. On the first occasion the tech suggested removing the protective sleeve.

Hakko provides a heat-protective mat for you to twiddle with the tips and get them seated properly. See picture.

None of this is in the instructions which come with the station. I suppose that there are some product liability issues with 750F tips that they don't want to open up.

The soldering station works great! It has a sleep function which saves some watts. The tip gets to temperature in just a few seconds when removed from the holder.
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Old 10th May 2019, 05:47 AM   #2
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I succumbed and purchased a new Hakko 951...
Hi Jack
So this is an inductive iron but not Curie point controlled like the Metcal?
Did you know any comparable other irons?
I think there's a similar "Quick" brand iron that may even take the same tips, 200 series IIRC.

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...S-E appeared and the iron wouldn't heat. A quick call to Hakko and their tech support provided the info...
What does the S-E error mean?

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The tips themselves have protective sleeves...
I can't visualise this, where does it sit that still lets you solder?

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Old 10th May 2019, 07:06 AM   #3
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Metcal and Thermaltronics are the only Curie point regulated irons I think.
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Old 10th May 2019, 07:57 AM   #4
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Metcal and Thermaltronics are the only Curie point ...
Also at least one Hakko, or so it seems...HAKKO | Soldering iron | HAKKO FX-100

The Metcal patent has expired whereas Hakko has a non-curie point patent still in force.
I suspect this explains the disappearance of similar irons from the market, like the Xytronics LF3000, the Quick 20x and an Atten model.

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Old 17th May 2019, 10:59 PM   #5
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Nice. I was thinking about the FX-951 but couldn't drop that much on an iron so I got one of these instead. It's excellent and you can use Hakko tips

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Old 18th May 2019, 04:07 PM   #6
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Yep,I really like the Hakko gear myself. I wanted a replacement for my ancient Weller WTCPT,and decided to try the Hakko FX-888D,which was on sale for small money through a large local supplier.For their entry-level model, wow,very impressed! Few years passed now,daily (often for long hours) usage,still using the original tips purchased with the unit too.Shoulda bought one long ago....

The biggest problem with Hakko products are the fakes.And boy,are they ever hard to catch.Of all of the counterfeit items on the market,who would think that the products from one soldering products manufacturer would be so widespread?

The only way to ensure receiving a GENUINE Hakko product is to only buy from an authorized Hakko dealer. You can find these listed on the Hakko website.
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The biggest problem with Hakko products are the fakes.And boy,are they ever hard to catch.Of all of the counterfeit items on the market,who would think that the products from one soldering products manufacturer would be so widespread?

The only way to ensure receiving a GENUINE Hakko product is to only buy from an authorized Hakko dealer. You can find these listed on the Hakko website.
Yes, I purchase through an authorized dealer -- there are a lot of rumblings about fakes.
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So this is an inductive iron but not Curie point controlled like the Metcal?
Did you know any comparable other irons?
To answer my own question for the record, (and in case I ever need to remind myself).
The Hakko 951 is not an eddy current iron but copies the idea of the JBC.
It has a resistance heater in the tip and uses that resistance wire as part of a thermocouple to measure the temperature.
Quite clever - very closely coupled so minimal delay and excellent control, the JBC irons are well respected for this.
The controller is not inherently expensive to make, so it looks like JBC performance is now possible at clone prices.

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Metcal and Thermaltronics are the only Curie point regulated irons I think.
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