CLIO Pocket

panson_hk · 30th April 2015, 02:03 AM

My CLIO pocket has been working in my lab for over two weeks. It is a nice speaker measurement tool. I used the bigger brother CLIO-FW before. Its firewire interface was not stable. Pocket uses USB and does not need an external DC supply. I have not encountered any connection problem. I also like its software supporting Windows and OSX!

The software does not have those advanced features of CLIO-11. But it is sufficient for my driver/enclosure measurement. One drawback is that it can not open MLS, SIN files saved by CLIO-11. On the other hand, I can export measured data to text file (impedance, frequency data) and wav file (time data). These export files can be processed by other tools like REW. I can use REW to calculate TS parameter to compare with CLIO pocket derived parameters. REW can show us how good the model fits the measured data.

I can also import impulse response (wav file) to REW. The impulse response can then be windowed by different window functions whereas Pocket software has just rectangular or half-hann windows. REW also allows more control on waterfall display. Spectrogram can also be generated.

forr · 11th July 2015, 12:16 PM

Hi,

Is there any user's manual more complete than the Clio Pocket Survival guide ( http://www.audiomatica.com/wp/wp-con...al%20Guide.pdf ) ?

This one is frustrating by its lacks of many details of the operation of the unit. For example :

- I see there is a section showing how to measure T&S parameters but no mention at all of driver VAS (volume of air equal to the driver compliance).

- there is no information of the way to display distortion measurements or to introducte a frequency response compensation.

About cosmetics, it seems very nice but :

- the graph display and chirp time domain display are shown having a white background.Can they be turned to much more comfortable (to my eyes) almost dark just as are the other displays ?

- a CSD colored presentation should be welcome.

Regards.

panson_hk · 13th July 2015, 09:03 AM

I suggest you download manual of CLIO-FW to learn more. There are some commons between CLIO-FW and CLIO Pocket.

TS parameters measurement of CLIO Pocket follows common practices: delta mass or delta compliance.

It does not do distortion measurement. Frequency compensation such as mic calibration can be done using Math function "Add file".

forr · 13th July 2015, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panson_hk

I suggest you download manual of CLIO-FW to learn more. There are some commons between CLIO-FW and CLIO Pocket.

TS parameters measurement of CLIO Pocket follows common practices: delta mass or delta compliance.

It does not do distortion measurement. Frequency compensation such as mic calibration can be done using Math function "Add file".

Thanks for your reply.

Quite a pity Clio Pocket has not distortion measurements facilities.
I am not sure I'll get a system lacking them.

For long, I have been using Woofer Tester Pro which is a nice and very complete system.
However, I had a sad adventure with it :

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/every...ml#post4346862

Maybe I will be lucky to find a second hand unit.

SY · 13th July 2015, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forr

Quite a pity Clio Pocket has not distortion measurements facilities.

It does measure distortion.

forr · 13th July 2015, 07:04 PM

Despite the unit being on the market since february, the given information is insufficient. A complete user manual for the Clio Pocket available to download on the Automatica web page would be wellcome. There is a negligence in the promotion of the product, it gives a detrimental look of the vendor to the potential customer.

panson_hk · 14th July 2015, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SY

It does measure distortion.

Really!? Please show us how.

panson_hk · 14th July 2015, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forr

Thanks for your reply.

Quite a pity Clio Pocket has not distortion measurements facilities.
I am not sure I'll get a system lacking them.

For long, I have been using Woofer Tester Pro which is a nice and very complete system.
However, I had a sad adventure with it :

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/every...ml#post4346862

Maybe I will be lucky to find a second hand unit.

I was seriously considering to buy WT-Pro. Thanks for your sharing.

panson_hk · 14th July 2015, 01:41 AM

For distortion measurement, I use REW or ARTA; and considering to buy a LASER sensor for excursion vs distortion measurement in ARTA.

SY · 14th July 2015, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panson_hk

Really!? Please show us how.

See my upcoming review in AudioXpress.

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11th July 2015, 12:16 PM	#2
forr diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Next door	Hi, Is there any user's manual more complete than the Clio Pocket Survival guide ( http://www.audiomatica.com/wp/wp-con...al%20Guide.pdf ) ? This one is frustrating by its lacks of many details of the operation of the unit. For example : - I see there is a section showing how to measure T&S parameters but no mention at all of driver VAS (volume of air equal to the driver compliance). - there is no information of the way to display distortion measurements or to introducte a frequency response compensation. About cosmetics, it seems very nice but : - the graph display and chirp time domain display are shown having a white background.Can they be turned to much more comfortable (to my eyes) almost dark just as are the other displays ? - a CSD colored presentation should be welcome. Regards.

13th July 2015, 09:03 AM	#3
panson_hk diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	I suggest you download manual of CLIO-FW to learn more. There are some commons between CLIO-FW and CLIO Pocket. TS parameters measurement of CLIO Pocket follows common practices: delta mass or delta compliance. It does not do distortion measurement. Frequency compensation such as mic calibration can be done using Math function "Add file".

13th July 2015, 07:04 PM	#6
forr diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Next door	Despite the unit being on the market since february, the given information is insufficient. A complete user manual for the Clio Pocket available to download on the Automatica web page would be wellcome. There is a negligence in the promotion of the product, it gives a detrimental look of the vendor to the potential customer.

14th July 2015, 01:41 AM	#9
panson_hk diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005	For distortion measurement, I use REW or ARTA; and considering to buy a LASER sensor for excursion vs distortion measurement in ARTA.