It is not "well known". "Some people claim, based either on subjective, uncontrolled impressions or audiophile folklore that...." might be a more accurate phrase to use.
Yes surely more accurate.
And stay true, for the opposite :" tolinsk woulg give better result because just groundloop isolation".... without looking at the other problems it generates !
So is it false than "most" of the tolinsk connection are giving worst result than spidf ? Was it a plot from the spidf lovers VS the tolinsk ones for the last 3 years ?
Btw I was just answering to this partial "vue d'esprit" from TNT... so with all those folklores we will create TNT and I a grup.
Let's return please to the thread who was open by a non technician to help non-technicians... if you want of course !
And stay true, for the opposite :" tolinsk woulg give better result because just groundloop isolation".... without looking at the other problems it generates !
So is it false than "most" of the tolinsk connection are giving worst result than spidf ? Was it a plot from the spidf lovers VS the tolinsk ones for the last 3 years ?
Btw I was just answering to this partial "vue d'esprit" from TNT... so with all those folklores we will create TNT and I a grup
.Let's return please to the thread who was open by a non technician to help non-technicians... if you want of course !
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As long as you don't dance around a "midsommarstång" (maypole) to accordion music...
Guys, I provide the wine !
Sure, if technical people are allowed to pitch in.
Sure, if they stay more technical than philosophical !
Btw, here after a botle of wine, we scratch our heads because tolinsk sounds like spidf
ANd to fest the good news, we open a bottle more !
Btw, here after a botle of wine, we scratch our heads because tolinsk sounds like spidf
And if you get drunk enough, you might even spell it "toslink"
Younger, a sweedisch girlfriend opened a ferment herring tin than they call the Surstoming
. It is forbiden in the planes oh man if you can eat that, you can eat all the french cheeses
.Ahaha I remember I looked at the botle of white wines and finally opened a frozen pepper vodka !
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I might have lived in Amsterdam the last 17 years, but I am originally a swedish-speaking Finn.
Learned my electrical engineering and CS at the Helsinki University of Technology, my musicology at University of Helsinki, and spent much of my youth sailing the Baltic Sea and on the Åland Islands...
Learned my electrical engineering and CS at the Helsinki University of Technology, my musicology at University of Helsinki, and spent much of my youth sailing the Baltic Sea and on the Åland Islands...
Younger, a sweedisch girlfriend opened a ferment herring tin than they call the Surstoming
I am pretty sure it is banned by the Geneva Convention.
That's the spirit!
Not this stuff?
What you have experienced with your current DAC is not going to be indicative of how the Soekris DAC responds to COAX and TOSLINK.
FWIW S/PDIF is a data standard that defines two physical layers: RCA/BNC and TOSLINK. AES/EBU has an almost identical data format to S/PDIF, and uses a third physical layer using XLR connectors.
The conventional wisdom is that if a DAC has complete jitter rejection then there will be no difference between cable formats.
The FIFO method Søren has used is possibly the most effective way of eliminating jitter in the incoming data stream - to the point the jitter introduced by the clock, fpga and IC's on the DAC board should be the determinant of jitter levels at the output of the DAC.
As for TOSLINK being a bad protocol, I'll share my favourite online test data from a Stereophile review of a Musical Fidelity V-Link .
fig.1:
Pretty good performance for a protocol that is supposedly far worse than coax. Perhaps the V-Link has a superior TOSLINK implementation to your Squeezebox, but regardless it shows that TOSLINK is not inherently flawed.
Anyway, I suspect you'll find that the dam1021 will have little sensitivity to the different cable formats.
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If you have a Squeezebox Touch you should definitely install the free EDO plugin and use the USB port as a digital output. Then get the excellent Amanero board and feed the Soekris dac with the I2S signal. I guarantee you won't look back.
The Amanero Combo board doesn't need drivers with Linux machines such as Squeezebox, and it's cheap too given it's marvellous performance.
It's a no brainer unless you use the USB port for music data. In that case I suggest you use the ethernet or wifi interface in stead.
I think Søren (soekris) mentioned that his FIFO scheme TRACKS the incoming clock to prevent FIFO overflow. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vend...-magnitude-24-bit-384-khz-57.html#post4135993 As per my humble understanding this is not the ultimate scheme in fighting jitter; Mark Levinson (name came because I used to have 360S) and many others have done that in 90'.
It seems Ian's (iancanada) approach is more comprehensive.
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