Part of my job is servicing & repairing PA systems, and I recently encountered some Pascal modules in K-array subwoofers (the X-PRO3 module). K-Array usually use the PowerSoft OEM modules (which are excellent), so being given a dead active subwoofer to repair that had a Pascal module in I suspected the Pascal....
Turns out the sub was so powerful it could vibrate its own ribbon cables off the boards! They should have been secured better for the application. So, for subwoofers at least, I would highly rate Pascal components. Clean, efficient and reliable power.
Turns out the sub was so powerful it could vibrate its own ribbon cables off the boards! They should have been secured better for the application. So, for subwoofers at least, I would highly rate Pascal components. Clean, efficient and reliable power.
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from the Power Extension PDF s-pro 2.
I think it's very interesting with the Power Extension but I don't know how exactly to produce them. There are no finished ones to buy.
You have make it on your own.
i make 2 Screenshots
from the Power Extension PDF s-pro 2.
I think it's very interesting with the Power Extension but I don't know how exactly to produce them. There are no finished ones to buy.
You have make it on your own.
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2000W should be able to wake up even "sæternissen".
For below 1000$ it is not worth thinking of DIY at that power level.
Made where? No noisy fans?
Enjoy until the neighbors have you expelled to Bjørnøya.
I missing technical details about Pascal module ?
what output mosfets will be used ? IRF / Infineon /Ixys ?
You can get with latest technology of driver IC and output devices
99 % efficiency
+ 33 % more output power
- 30 % runs more cooler
- 50 % smaller system size
Up to 3,5 KW with 1 single pair output devices possibile - PCB size same Samsung Galaxy A7
In this case,....what IC driver will be used ?
Peregrine PSEMI29102 IC driver for power up to 1000W ?
Its no wonder, this amps running cool,
I think pascal using EPCXXX or THXXX / TPHXXXX output devices
what output mosfets will be used ? IRF / Infineon /Ixys ?
You can get with latest technology of driver IC and output devices
99 % efficiency
+ 33 % more output power
- 30 % runs more cooler
- 50 % smaller system size
Up to 3,5 KW with 1 single pair output devices possibile - PCB size same Samsung Galaxy A7
In this case,....what IC driver will be used ?
Peregrine PSEMI29102 IC driver for power up to 1000W ?
Its no wonder, this amps running cool,
I think pascal using EPCXXX or THXXX / TPHXXXX output devices
Interesting that you bring up wattage.
It was not even on my list of priorities, I was looking mostly at the measurements from an in-depth review by the German tools4music and THD+N.
"Beim Betrachten von Bild 2 lassen sich bei 1 Watt an 8 Ohm äußerst geringe Klirrwerte von nur 0,01% erkennen, die in sehr geringem Maße von
harmonischen Oberwellen dritter Ordnung bestimmt werden."
So it was measured to 0.01% THD+N at 1 watt/8ohm. I'd say that's fairly good for any amp, regardless of intended use.
The Pascal power stages give squeaky clean power from low power levels to just over 200w/8ohm per channel, at any frequency, not just 1khz.
The fans are controlled by thermal sensors, and are not activated until 85c.
If you want to see the review, it's in the 02/2015 edition listed here:
tools4music: Ausgaben
Edit:
It seems Pascal sell A LOT of modules to other manufacturers that put together stuff for PA applications, been trying to find prices for various plate amps with DSP using these modules, one of the more interesting ones are the PPA series from Four Audio:
Four Audio | PPA-Series
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My line of thinking is: You (and your wife) are experienced in audiophile evaluation listening. You appear to me as a rather critical (in the positive sense) and widely experienced audiophile. If you can find a product that is sold for below 900 Eur, with an output power (2x1000W bridged) that should satisfy anybody’s private needs, with a sound quality where you have no reservations, designed by people who seem to know what they are doing also stability wise such that you can rely on continued performance then we have a reference product which is very difficult to beat.
“Pascal” should be another derivative from ICEpower and most of those products appear reliable.
I looked around for the IMG StageLine brand and concluded it belongs to “Monacor” in Bremen (Monacor is an old brand). Monacor is a trading company and it seems that while Monacor holds the brand name, the design and production is left to sub-contractors (I found a paper called “Tender text”). Here Pascal has been involved at least to some extent.
I found another paper somewhere else mentioning that Pascal also produces at “the usual suspects” which explains the moderate price.
Congratulations with your new acquisition and enjoy the excellent sound at moderate levels. What the competitors will think of this is their headache.
“Pascal” should be another derivative from ICEpower and most of those products appear reliable.
I looked around for the IMG StageLine brand and concluded it belongs to “Monacor” in Bremen (Monacor is an old brand). Monacor is a trading company and it seems that while Monacor holds the brand name, the design and production is left to sub-contractors (I found a paper called “Tender text”). Here Pascal has been involved at least to some extent.
I found another paper somewhere else mentioning that Pascal also produces at “the usual suspects” which explains the moderate price.
Congratulations with your new acquisition and enjoy the excellent sound at moderate levels. What the competitors will think of this is their headache.
German tools4music be aware with this magazin !
Im German and know much about this people working for this company
not like talk in this forum
> 900 Eur, with an output power (2x1000W bridged) that should satisfy
no problem
look here about 700 EUR
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they will beat pascal
Are these chaps ripping off Lab Gruppen?
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Jesper Lind Hansen, original designer of the modules. Involved in electronics design, electronic music and parties.
GENIUS! #16: Jesper Lind Hansen and the Pascal S-PRO2 - PSNEurope
Did they sack the designer? I was sacked after designing 6KW modules for another company.
FauxFrench, thank you, I may be critical to a flaw, but do not know whether my level of experience is significant enough to count.
I thought your post was humorous, but I wanted to reply in a serious manner because you did bring up a very relevant topic.
The STA-2000D is not that new, it's been around for some time now, but it is in a different price range from the more popular competitors, mainly the Behringer and Crown low range equipment with/without DSP. This explains the lack of popularity to some degree.
It seems that lots of power cheap is a better advertising argument than moderate power at a higher level of quality.
NMOS, the STA-2000D is a 4 channel amplifier, you can get about 2x1kw from it, but for me the main point is to view it as a 4x200w slightly higher quality amp, rather than a 2x1kw mediocre one. THD+N also seem very slightly better on the Pascal based amplifiers.
Eva, smart people are seldom the most popular. History is littered with geniuses that fell sacrifice to the egos of more "socially developed" individuals that somehow assume petty games is the main driving force of scientific and technical development.
I thought your post was humorous, but I wanted to reply in a serious manner because you did bring up a very relevant topic.
The STA-2000D is not that new, it's been around for some time now, but it is in a different price range from the more popular competitors, mainly the Behringer and Crown low range equipment with/without DSP. This explains the lack of popularity to some degree.
It seems that lots of power cheap is a better advertising argument than moderate power at a higher level of quality.
NMOS, the STA-2000D is a 4 channel amplifier, you can get about 2x1kw from it, but for me the main point is to view it as a 4x200w slightly higher quality amp, rather than a 2x1kw mediocre one. THD+N also seem very slightly better on the Pascal based amplifiers.
Eva, smart people are seldom the most popular. History is littered with geniuses that fell sacrifice to the egos of more "socially developed" individuals that somehow assume petty games is the main driving force of scientific and technical development.
Carvin Club Budapest had installed Sanway....believe me the bass pressure power was so strong, you feel sick