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Old 16th August 2003, 05:31 AM   #1
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just wanted to get the dirt on all the little philosophies of the gainclone. i often hear people suggest things because it fits the simplistic ideals of the gainclone. what, in your opinions are the major ideals of gainclones? like physically short NFB and small components, but any reasonsfor these, and anything else.
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just wanted to get the dirt on all the little philosophies of the gainclone.
Well you could read the posts on this forum or we could all write it out again just for you.
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yeah, but usually there isn't reall an explaination for why you need small parts, just that is fits for gainclones. also, i may miss something.
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yeah, but usually there isn't reall an explaination for why you need small parts, just that is fits for gainclones. also, i may miss something
I don't think that I have yet seen anybody suggesting parts based on their small size!

The bottom line is that you need to build one of these amps to hear what it is like for yourself. Then try different components and see what difference they make in YOUR system.

There is really no substitute for the real thing and if you do read some of the posts on this subject, you will see that there are always different opinions about nearly every aspect of the IGC construction.

I wasn't being rude earlier, but I doubt very much that we all want to go over the same ground again.
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i often hear people suggest things because it fits the simplistic ideals of the gainclone. what, in your opinions are the major ideals of gainclones?
My opinion about this is: Simplicity. It's easy to succeed and the chip is descent, one of the best in it's class I imagine.

I have, infact ordered some samples and plan to make pcb's with LM3886.... eventually. My plan is to make the amp (the pcb in particular) a little bit nicer than Gaincard... not so hard
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I have, infact ordered some samples and plan to make pcb's with LM3886.... eventually. My plan is to make the amp (the pcb in particular) a little bit nicer than Gaincard... not so hard
I dunno, Per. Sure you're not aiming too high? It's quite a daunting challenge. Just take a good look at what you're up against. Perhaps that'll bring you back down to earth.
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wasn't there a post from the importer saying that this is NOT
a picture of the innards of a Gain Card???

...then again, if i were the importer i'd be saying the same thing,
even if it were true!!

(does that one resistor look like a little ear of corn to anyone else?)
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Like Nuuk said , ya gotta build one and try it.One of the great advantages to the GC is the fact that you can tune it (more or less) to the type of sound that you like.
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wasn't there a post from the importer saying that this is NOT
a picture of the innards of a Gain Card???

...then again, if i were the importer i'd be saying the same thing,
even if it were true!!
Heheh.

Yeah, Yoshi Segoshi of Sakura Systems said that that was a photograph of a prototype that he said must have slipped through. However I've verified the innards photo with two different people with two different Gaincards so if this is a photograph of a prototype, then more than one prototype managed to slip through.

When Yoshi was asked for photos of the non-prototype Gaincard, he refused.

Take it for what it's worth.

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It seems that noone in the whole wide world can take a photo of a "real" Gaincard. Odd.

When I look at www.sakurasystems.com I get not good vibes. Much talk, almost no pictures! How many high-end manufactures are _not_ pride of the insides of their products, and also want to show it (so they can convince the customers that the products are worth the high price)?
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