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Old 16th November 2019, 01:24 PM   #21
Perry Babin is offline Perry Babin  United States
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How many optocouplers do you have in the amp?
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Old 16th November 2019, 09:49 PM   #22
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There are 5.

Opto-couplers circled in yellow are both: 1/2 +1.10v, 4/5 +2.54v

Circled in red are both: 1/2 +1.18v, 4/5 +0.018v

Circled in green: 1/2 +0.004v, 4/5 +11.74v
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Old 17th November 2019, 12:24 AM   #23
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This amp appears to have a fully isolated secondary. Find the two speaker terminals that are directly connected (0 ohms between them and use that for the reference point for the following voltage readings.

±rail
±regulated
Voltage on all 3 terminals of the J111 muting transistors. They are likely Q101 and Q201. If they're a different part number, what is it?
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Old 17th November 2019, 05:37 AM   #24
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Rail voltage is: ±38.95

As to ±regulated, I'm not sure what/where exactly you are asking me to check the voltage on...?

The components in the Q101 and Q202 location are MBS4993 bidirectional switches.

Q101 DC voltage:
MT1: -1215v
G: -12.88v
MT2: -12.95

Q201:
MT1: -13.06v
G: -13.72v
MT2: -13.84v
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Old 17th November 2019, 05:53 AM   #25
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Check the regulated voltage on the PS pins of the op-amps.

Check the various flameproof (dull, ceramic coated) resistors in the amp. Most are low value and can be checked in the circuit.
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Old 17th November 2019, 07:18 AM   #26
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Regulated voltage is ±15v (pins 4 and 8) op-amps are BA4560
All the flame proof resistors check good with the exception of the two circled in the attached photo. Both are of the same value but are giving quite different ohm readings. They are also both getting very hot when the amp is powered up.
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Old 17th November 2019, 09:39 AM   #27
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Check D321 and D322.
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Old 17th November 2019, 11:00 AM   #28
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See also #27.

Before you reassemble this amp, heat the terminals of the PS filter caps and make sure that there is no smell of electrolyte.
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Old 17th November 2019, 09:46 PM   #29
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If the power supply filter capacitors are original (2200uF 16V Panasonic HF) you should exchange them, they all leak, always.
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Old 18th November 2019, 04:29 AM   #30
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D321 and D322 both check good.

The PS filter caps had leaked electrolyte all over that section of board. Prior to me even starting this thread, the first thing I did to this amp was to remove those caps thoroughly clean the board ad replace them.
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