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Old 14th January 2021, 08:15 PM   #151
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I have one (not in use now since Iím using a Denon DL103 MC on an SME 3009 II).



I was very close to acquiring the famous "best buy in MC" until I read this ....

Denon DL-103 - The most overrated MC of all time!- Vinyl Engine



Could you give us your opinion ?
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Old 14th January 2021, 08:24 PM   #152
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MMC20E which was the next stage up.
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Old 14th January 2021, 08:50 PM   #153
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The B&O MMC20EN which was the next to top model at the time.

This one needs a clean.
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Old 14th January 2021, 09:42 PM   #154
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What cartridge upgrade from a Shure V15 v-mr ?
@academia50
I would not take opinions that are based on subjective assessments too seriously - including mine.

However, a plot of the cart output came in the box - its flat out to 20 kHz and the channel balance is outstanding for an electro-mechanical device.

This says it all:-

“Hi Fi World, by the way, has the 103/103R on their list of most recommended cartridges (November 2006 issue), not that that really means much to me.”

I used a Hanna SL for a few weeks and that was very good (highly rated by Keywood) but it cost £999 vs the DL103 at about £250.

The DL103 has been around in various guises since the early 1960’s and has stood the test of time. I doubt there is a better MC for the money.

I’m using an SME on a Michel Gyrodec and a self designed pre (different to the self-designed one I used on the Hana SL)
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Old 14th January 2021, 10:22 PM   #155
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What cartridge upgrade from a Shure V15 v-mr ?
To me the DL-103 is the flathead ford V8 of the cartridge world and popular because you can mod it for much better performance, so people do.



Three years ago i should have been sensible and just got my Benz wood retipped (about £200) and got an AT150MLx for MM duties, but I sold the Benz and went on a spree. My mid life crisis as I don't have a garage for a sports car at the moment


My next impulsive sillyness will be a rebuild of a Mk1 Ortofon MC20. 0.07mV output as new with 2.5Ohm coils. It'll be less when finished.
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Old 14th January 2021, 11:05 PM   #156
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What cartridge upgrade from a Shure V15 v-mr ?
That MC20 is about 30uA output.

That’s a high output cart in my book
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Old 14th January 2021, 11:07 PM   #157
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That's why I got it
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Old 15th January 2021, 12:05 PM   #158
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My B&O cartridge adapter arrived this morning.

I will give it a test later and report back. I am not expecting to be knocked over but it will be interesting.
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Old 15th January 2021, 12:11 PM   #159
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Also, having weighted up my options I am going to make some updates to the LP12 in the near future.

1. Stiffer subchassis
2. Update the bearing
3. Given reports a stiffer top plate makes gains but at quite an expense I may op to add some T section ribs at random angles to the underside. I just need to check clearance.
4. I will add a removeable beech wood cross brace to the underside. I currently run it with no base board in place.

I will keep looking out for alternative carts to try but feel this will gain me more initially.
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Old 15th January 2021, 07:08 PM   #160
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Ok, now listening to the first of the three B&O cartridges I have.
They are a lot lighter than the V15.
Needed to put my heavier anti skate weight back on.
Counterweight quite far in but I recall I have the heavier option on my 9cc arm.

Setting the arm level did not sound best, now have the base of the cart about level. I will try more nose down after.
Running the mmc20e first. Wasn't particularly impressed via headphones.
Ran for a side while main amps warmed up.

First impression is it does not have the weight of bass to match the V15. Speed though is there.
This cartridge though has a trick. Its throwing a very wide sound stage and 'hanging' sounds in the air.

I am going to listen further before trying another.
I still have my pot fitted to adjust resistor loading. Reading though these may need more capacitance than I am running.
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