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Old 10th March 2015, 05:03 PM   #1011
gofar99 is offline gofar99  United States
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Hi I used large diameter rubber equipment feet. They are available from many sources and pretty cheap and won't deteriorate like cork.
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Old 10th March 2015, 05:12 PM   #1012
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Rubber may also add considerably more mass to the spindle. My assembly already seems to not be as balanced as I'd like, with the spindle not properly parallel with the fluid surface.
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Old 11th March 2015, 01:55 AM   #1013
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If the label protector doesn't keep ALL moisture away from the labels, then it would seem like it would keep the moisture ON the label instead and make the problem worse. I can't see how cork would provide enough of a seal to keep the labels perfectly dry. FWIW, I've never had a problem with wetness on labels. Even when a little gets on them, a quick gentle wipe with paper towel or the like solves the problem with no noticeable impact. I won't do that on my first pressings of valuable LPs, but for all others there just doesn't seem to be a problem.
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Old 11th March 2015, 02:39 PM   #1014
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Indeed, Carlp, I had a similar issue once when I slightly over-filled the tank, and the Carlon cover got a little little wet where it met the record. Blah.

One advantage that I do see with using spacers as large as possible without covering the grooves would be added stability and rigidity. I imagine that it would help prevent further record flex, and might even improve cleaning slightly as a result. But no, I don't really imagine it protecting labels from anything other than droplets flying up while the tank is running, which I've never seen happen when the records are actually in the fluid. *shrug*
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Old 13th March 2015, 05:45 PM   #1015
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So far, I don't like any of label protectors. Here are some ideas.

This is groove master label protector.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41phdR9zhyL.jpg



This Harbor Freight $2.99 suction cup. It can be modified as label protector as well.

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/c...mage_18136.jpg
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Old 15th March 2015, 09:44 PM   #1016
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This might be little bit of the main topic.....noticed guys having a hard time finding Triton X-114.

Here is a link to a company that i've been dealing to get all my supplies and Triton X-114 is one of them,....Excellent service !
http://www.museumservicescorporation.com/scat/de.html
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Old 16th March 2015, 06:14 AM   #1017
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Under the abrading products of the link http://www.museumservicescorporation.com/scat/ab.html.
there are products that might be useful for cleaning album covers.
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Old 17th March 2015, 03:09 AM   #1018
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An interesting video about record cleaning. Person is very hung up about mold release agents and believes Keith Monk cleaning machine is the Rolls Royce of RCMs. He gives a very minimal thought about the ultrasonic cleaning method. He reduces the principles of US cleaning to just an agitation. He believes mold release agent is re-contaminating the record while in the bath. Anyone have thoughts about the mold release agents?
He talks about the USRCM at 37:30 - 38:59 for those of you who want to skip to that part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbC2ANXRqY
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Old 17th March 2015, 05:07 AM   #1019
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An interesting video about record cleaning. Person is very hung up about mold release agents and believes Keith Monk cleaning machine is the Rolls Royce of RCMs. He gives a very minimal thought about the ultrasonic cleaning method. He reduces the principles of US cleaning to just an agitation. He believes mold release agent is re-contaminating the record while in the bath. Anyone have thoughts about the mold release agents?
He talks about the USRCM at 37:30 - 38:59 for those of you who want to skip to that part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbC2ANXRqY
I'm up to 18 or 20 minutes in, and he's talking about all those grody substances that can fall into a record groove.

I see the turntable behind him, and there's been a question in my mind for years about high end turntables - many or most of them are totally exposed, and anything (dust, the other crud he's talking about) circulating in and falling through the air will fall onto the LP while it's playing. If you don't have a "dust cover" that encloses the turntable, it seems that at least putting a plate (whether plastic, glass, metal, wood, whaever) a few inches above the turntable would help keep an LP clean while it's being played. It could be hinged like a regular dust cover to make operating the turntable easier. Does anyone do this?
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Old 17th March 2015, 05:21 AM   #1020
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I'm up to 18 or 20 minutes in, and he's talking about all those grody substances that can fall into a record groove.

I see the turntable behind him, and there's been a question in my mind for years about high end turntables - many or most of them are totally exposed, and anything (dust, the other crud he's talking about) circulating in and falling through the air will fall onto the LP while it's playing. If you don't have a "dust cover" that encloses the turntable, it seems that at least putting a plate (whether plastic, glass, metal, wood, whaever) a few inches above the turntable would help keep an LP clean while it's being played. It could be hinged like a regular dust cover to make operating the turntable easier. Does anyone do this?
You make an excellent point. Short of having a truly particle-free atmosphere, there's a lot of stuff depositing during a single play. And covers can have more than merely acoustic effects.

I wiped the dust off the top of one table's cover while a record was playing, and the low-mass arm lifted off the record!
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