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EC8010 12th March 2010 06:00 PM

As has been pointed out, transformers are a much more expensive solution (although they do allow you to treat the signal as balanced, and therefore reject hum etc very nicely).

Valves are noisier than FETs because although it is possible to make the gm comparable, their grid current is noisier than a FET's gate current.

Despite the fact that I have some LSK170, I will probably use one of the superbeta bipolar transistors designed for low noise (Analog Devices SSM2210).

In the end, the implementation matters at least as much as the device...

jcx 12th March 2010 07:00 PM

I don't see the reason to think bjt i_b flowing in mc is a worry - the coil is setting in a air gap and the current can't have much effect on the near saturated PM biased pole pieces - the situation is completely unlike mm

wahab 12th March 2010 07:25 PM

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I have designed and built a bjts input MC preamp, but i hesitate to use it.
Noise contribution is about 0.35nV/sqrt hz, but i have trouble
reducing the input DC voltage under 2uV.
In the waiting, i m using an AKAI preamp (that i did save from being
scrapped at the local scrapyard !!) that use 2SK150 dual fets at the input.

Joachim Gerhard 12th March 2010 08:28 PM

Wahab, could you post the circuit ?
2uV is not much. In a 5 Ohm cartridge it generates only 0.4uA or 8E.-13 W.
I do not think that is a problem.
I did a lot of transimpedance amps that generated much more and it did not matter how i abused the cartridge (Lyra Titan i). I always worked perfectly well afterwards.

analog_guy 13th March 2010 12:11 AM

Simulated Noise Floor for JFET MC Amp
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Here is the simulated noise PDF for the MC amp with a 20 - 20KHz BPF applied. With a gain of approx 14, the equivalent noise referenced to the input stage is 0.27 nV/sqrt(hz). This was simulated with the input shorted

analog_guy 13th March 2010 12:30 AM

Simulated Distortion for the MC Amp
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Here is the simulated distortion for a 20 mVPP input into the MC amp. 20 mVPP is, of course, considerably in excess of what an MC cartridge can deliver. At lower input levels the distortion measurement is limited by the amp's noise floor. Remember also, that this is a zero GFB design.

tvi 2nd April 2015 02:14 PM

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i m using an AKAI preamp (that i did save from being scrapped at the local crapyard !!) that use 2SK150 dual fets at the input.
This one PR-A04?

included a Sharp for fun

Ejam 3rd April 2015 12:58 AM

Rod Coleman - Shunt Cascode Questions

Some clarification on your 2SK389 shunt cascode: is that 7mA per fet or for the pair and similarly 11 ohms per source or for the pair?

Calvin 3rd April 2015 06:05 AM


I wonder why You use a differential input stage structure in first place?
Why not use the simpler complementary grounded source instead?
It'd require 6 JFETs and 2 resistors less for the same outcome.
At first thought the only difference could be lower pssr and a phase inversion of the output.
I'd say the differential Input comes handy if we have to deal with (and/or combine) two signals at the same.
If we only have to deal with a single signal there's no advantage over a SE structure, but added complexity and hassle.
The lower THD is imho only due to complementary action and not because of the differential Input structure.


jcarr 3rd April 2015 06:33 AM

+1 to Calvin's comments.

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