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Old 16th April 2011, 04:07 PM   #6091
Franz Gysi is offline Franz Gysi  Switzerland
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BTW

Doing this comparison, I remember the TD160 was turning a very little bit to fast and could not be adjusted.

Maybe the belt was a little bit thicker than the original.

And this was very disturbing for switching between the musicserver and the turntable.

Different frequency level and timing.

Now, with the TD126MKII, the pitch control is matching perfectly.

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Old 16th April 2011, 04:37 PM   #6092
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I just compared both cartdriges with 220R in the input:

Boahhh, what a difference, specially with the DL103R!

Much more detailled, but a little bit on the thinny side, some body missing.

Imho, also the Benz is winning a little bit with 220R load compared to 150R.

I still prefer the Benz. Overall the sound is more balanced.

Not sure, I would like the 220R load for the DL103R for a long term experience.

Maybe something between 150 and 220? 180...

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Old 16th April 2011, 08:36 PM   #6093
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You don't have the psu yet, the phono fleshes out with its psu and you could find DL103R more meaty as a combination, 180R load should do. Next logical step at 680Euro from a 103 is the Red, I agree.
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Old 17th April 2011, 07:04 AM   #6094
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No no!

The logical way is like this:

Denon DL103 Euro 160 (some people prefer it over the DL103R)
Denon DL103R Euro 360
Benz ACE SL Euro 680

Please keep in mind: I got mine together with a fine turntable and tonearm as a tradein for two revised Quad II, eg. for some diy audio work.

I could not afford to spend 680 Euro for a cartridge right now :-)

BTW: a good argument to build the psu asap.

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Old 17th April 2011, 07:46 AM   #6095
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The logical way is like this:

Denon DL103 Euro 160 (some people prefer it over the DL103R)

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That is why I wrote 103 as a naked base family model number... There are camps.
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Old 17th April 2011, 10:21 PM   #6096
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Just for fun.... Some pics of my Benz Riaa with the new outboard psu (hum killer).

I am using two 80VA Toroids (could not afford the R-Core right now)

In the Bench I tested the build with a smaller PSU.

I am using Lee´s original board but stuffed with better (bigger) parts.

The shunts are Mean V12 (V12 but using a 47u BG on the output instead of the zoble).

Sounds sublime It took me a while but now I believe my component/layout choice is "dans la mouche".

Shinkoh is better than Z Foil for Rload in this case.
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Old 17th April 2011, 10:44 PM   #6097
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Hey, that is true retro in internet time terms. I believe Lee's contribution was one of the very first maybe more than 2 yrs ago. Still kicking around. Nice.
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Old 18th April 2011, 09:29 AM   #6098
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Just for fun.... Some pics of my Benz Riaa with the new outboard psu (hum killer).

I am using two 80VA Toroids (could not afford the R-Core right now)

In the Bench I tested the build with a smaller PSU.

I am using Lee´s original board but stuffed with better (bigger) parts.

The shunts are Mean V12 (V12 but using a 47u BG on the output instead of the zoble).

Sounds sublime It took me a while but now I believe my component/layout choice is "dans la mouche".

Shinkoh is better than Z Foil for Rload in this case.
Congrats Ricardo, also I'm using Shinkoh for load
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Old 18th April 2011, 10:02 AM   #6099
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Thank you Merlin

I would like to post more pics but somehow I can not.... Something is happening in diyaudio site.
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Old 19th April 2011, 09:11 AM   #6100
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Yes Ricardo I have the same problem I can't uploading pics.
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