Please consider reviewing my Interpretation of this generic control pod diagram, to help me out in understanding the workings of this circuits.
http://blog.jseaber.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/remoteV100.pdf
I'm new to these electronic circuits, and this might be my first time trying to understand an electronics circuit diagram.
I have broken the working circuit into three stages and sections, to help break up this information up for reading comprehension, and handling.
Anything italicized I`m not sure about and would like confirmation of
and if there is any part i am mistaken in, please explain the difference to me.
I would like to make a tutorial or thread, explaining to other people like myself, how these things work, so that contemporaries in this matter will have more resources to help repair our units, for replacing components or controllers, and this thread might help other owners and perspective owners out.
Also, I'm working on developing a solution myself to share with people, and explains, so that other can work from that, but at this stage I could use help of the community.
So, return of the Z' to diyaudio.
http://blog.jseaber.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/remoteV100.pdf
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I'm new to these electronic circuits, and this might be my first time trying to understand an electronics circuit diagram.
I have broken the working circuit into three stages and sections, to help break up this information up for reading comprehension, and handling.
Anything italicized I`m not sure about and would like confirmation of
and if there is any part i am mistaken in, please explain the difference to me.
I would like to make a tutorial or thread, explaining to other people like myself, how these things work, so that contemporaries in this matter will have more resources to help repair our units, for replacing components or controllers, and this thread might help other owners and perspective owners out.
Also, I'm working on developing a solution myself to share with people, and explains, so that other can work from that, but at this stage I could use help of the community.
So, return of the Z' to diyaudio.
Section 1
Section 1: Power Management Stage
power negative comes into control pod from pin 4
power positive comes into control pod from pin 5
power negative is ground to pcb/chassis
power negative runs to a 10.2k resistor
power negative set to led negative terminal
power positive is split
to run to the led
and
to the on and off switch
negative connects back to power ground pin 4 (I assume)
power positive is run from the switch to pin 15
Section 1 Questions
1.
what do they mean by pot sw?
• http://blog.jseaber.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/remoteV100.pdf
switch?
if so, I thought the switch was before this point, in order to turn off the led?
2.
is the power split/divided between led and and power switch?
3.
shouldn't the ground be connected to the on and off switch?
and if so
• why is ground not shown as connected to the on and off switch,
• is it simply not connected to the on/off switch?
Section 1: Power Management Stage
power negative comes into control pod from pin 4
power positive comes into control pod from pin 5
power negative is ground to pcb/chassis
power negative runs to a 10.2k resistor
power negative set to led negative terminal
power positive is split
to run to the led
and
to the on and off switch
negative connects back to power ground pin 4 (I assume)
power positive is run from the switch to pin 15
Section 1 Questions
1.
what do they mean by pot sw?
• http://blog.jseaber.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/remoteV100.pdf
switch?
if so, I thought the switch was before this point, in order to turn off the led?
2.
is the power split/divided between led and and power switch?
3.
shouldn't the ground be connected to the on and off switch?
and if so
• why is ground not shown as connected to the on and off switch,
• is it simply not connected to the on/off switch?
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Section 2
Path 1 section 2 Solution: Audio signals line in, channel volume control, amplifier accommodation, and line out
left and right audio signals, negative and positive, line into control pod
from the 3.5mm plug connection
negative is ground to chassis and/or pcb and shield?
negative signal is split to left and right
left negative signal goes to 0.01uf capacitor (104k)
right negative signal goes to 0.01uf capacitor (104k)
• these might not be the correct figures.. but should be good enough?
• this is consistent with a third party replacement control pod i have disassembled.
left negative signal is connected the negative post of a dual-unit logarithmic potentiometer's negative left channel
∘ Alps 688-RK09712200MC
right negative signal is connected to the negative post of the dual unit logarithmic potentiometer's negative right channel
left positive signal is connected to the positive post of the dual unit logarithmic potentiometer's positive left channel
right positive signal is connected to the positive post of the dual unit logarithmic potentiometer's positive right channel
negative signal is tied back to common/ground
common negative signal is then sent to pin 3 of the control pod line-out
left positive signal is connected to pin 12 of the control pod line-out
right positive signal is connected to pin 6 of the control pod line-out
lines from the control pod line-out are sent to the active-preamplifier section
Section 2: Questions
1.
why does it look like negative signals are connected from ground to the positive signals after exiting the capacitor?
• is this the case?
• or what does the diagram properly read
2.
is the dual unit potentiometer ALPS 10k(total) (5k per channel?) or (10k per channel?) potentiometer?
is total resistance declaration meaning total resistance per channel?
• http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/RK09712200MC/?qs=fQ8kcZGzY5Wzud3OJDlECg==
3.
With the capacitors labeled as optional, are they really optional for safety?
Path 1 section 2 Solution: Audio signals line in, channel volume control, amplifier accommodation, and line out
left and right audio signals, negative and positive, line into control pod
from the 3.5mm plug connection
negative is ground to chassis and/or pcb and shield?
negative signal is split to left and right
left negative signal goes to 0.01uf capacitor (104k)
right negative signal goes to 0.01uf capacitor (104k)
• these might not be the correct figures.. but should be good enough?
• this is consistent with a third party replacement control pod i have disassembled.
left negative signal is connected the negative post of a dual-unit logarithmic potentiometer's negative left channel
∘ Alps 688-RK09712200MC
right negative signal is connected to the negative post of the dual unit logarithmic potentiometer's negative right channel
left positive signal is connected to the positive post of the dual unit logarithmic potentiometer's positive left channel
right positive signal is connected to the positive post of the dual unit logarithmic potentiometer's positive right channel
negative signal is tied back to common/ground
common negative signal is then sent to pin 3 of the control pod line-out
left positive signal is connected to pin 12 of the control pod line-out
right positive signal is connected to pin 6 of the control pod line-out
lines from the control pod line-out are sent to the active-preamplifier section
Section 2: Questions
1.
why does it look like negative signals are connected from ground to the positive signals after exiting the capacitor?
• is this the case?
• or what does the diagram properly read
2.
is the dual unit potentiometer ALPS 10k(total) (5k per channel?) or (10k per channel?) potentiometer?
is total resistance declaration meaning total resistance per channel?
• http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/RK09712200MC/?qs=fQ8kcZGzY5Wzud3OJDlECg==
3.
With the capacitors labeled as optional, are they really optional for safety?
Section 3
Section 3: back to control pod, for headphone or subwoofer functionality
a common negative signal then comes back out of pin 3
common negative is again grounded to pcb/chassis
common negative signal is connected to a 3.5mm plug-switch's common negative in-post
• STX3100-334726
left positive signal is sent to the headphone switch's positive left positive in-post
right positive signal is sent to the headphone switch's positive right posotive in-post
Path 1 section 3A: If the switch is set to headphone, the headphone story
from the 3.5mm audio switch
the common(shared) negative signal is tied to a shared common negative post of the jack's headphone section
left positive signal is run to a 33ohm resistor
right positive signal is run to a 33ohm resistor
left positive signal is set to the left positive terminal of the jack's headphone section
right positive signal is set to the right positive terminal of the jack's headphone section
this is the end of the headphone story
Section 3A Questions
1.
Why is the negative signal not also run to resistors, to mirror positive signal handling?
Section 3B: if the switch is not set to headphones, subwoofer attenuation story
The common negative signal is sent to a 4k resistor
left positive signal is sent to a 2.85k resistor
right positive signal is sent to a 2.85k resistor
negative signal is tied to the negative post(s) of a dual unit linear 10k potentiometer
• Alps RK09712200MC
positive signals are joined together to common-common positive
common positive signals are split
positive common signal is connected to positive post of dual unit left linear
a negative signale is tied from potentiometer negative line out to the pcb ground
a positive common signal enters a 3.62kohm resistor
negative signal set to a 591ohm resistor
positive and negative are joined together before exiting to pin 1 to amp` power amp section??
negative is connected back to pin 3 signal negative
Section 3B Questions
1.
does negative connect to positive, or how is the diagram correctly read?
2.
is the ALPS 10k(total) potentiometer 5k total per channel?) or 10k total per per channel
i don't understand their meaning of "total".
∘ http://www.alps.com/prod/info/E/HTML/Potentiometer/RotaryPotentiometers/RK097/RK0971221Z05.htm
∘ RK09712200MC
3.
is positive common mode made before entering the dual gang potentiometer, or by way of the potentiometer (in it)?
4.
Is this dual-unit a 6 pin, a two-channel potentiometer, with 5 pins or a single channel potentiometer with 3 pins?
RK097 Series - Basic information
for example if this is a 6 pin potentiometer, then the common positive is split before connecting to the left and right channels of the potentiometer
and then common positive is rejoined after?
or by the unit itself?
All together, sorting through all of this, searching online and reading about resistors has made this seemingly simple matter, a challenge. But since i had seen it made no simpler before, i figure it was worth the effort to try to get to the bottom of this, myself to offer others a maybe simpler explanation, once I understand everything here
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@ Mooly
My apologies, i didn't mean to disrespect the community rules, when I did not see my original post created, when it was approval, i figured i had incorrectly submitted the post, and went to create another, because i did not know of the approval processes. Thanks for being patient.
Section 3: back to control pod, for headphone or subwoofer functionality
a common negative signal then comes back out of pin 3
common negative is again grounded to pcb/chassis
common negative signal is connected to a 3.5mm plug-switch's common negative in-post
• STX3100-334726
left positive signal is sent to the headphone switch's positive left positive in-post
right positive signal is sent to the headphone switch's positive right posotive in-post
Path 1 section 3A: If the switch is set to headphone, the headphone story
from the 3.5mm audio switch
the common(shared) negative signal is tied to a shared common negative post of the jack's headphone section
left positive signal is run to a 33ohm resistor
right positive signal is run to a 33ohm resistor
left positive signal is set to the left positive terminal of the jack's headphone section
right positive signal is set to the right positive terminal of the jack's headphone section
this is the end of the headphone story
Section 3A Questions
1.
Why is the negative signal not also run to resistors, to mirror positive signal handling?
Section 3B: if the switch is not set to headphones, subwoofer attenuation story
The common negative signal is sent to a 4k resistor
left positive signal is sent to a 2.85k resistor
right positive signal is sent to a 2.85k resistor
negative signal is tied to the negative post(s) of a dual unit linear 10k potentiometer
• Alps RK09712200MC
positive signals are joined together to common-common positive
common positive signals are split
positive common signal is connected to positive post of dual unit left linear
a negative signale is tied from potentiometer negative line out to the pcb ground
a positive common signal enters a 3.62kohm resistor
negative signal set to a 591ohm resistor
positive and negative are joined together before exiting to pin 1 to amp` power amp section??
negative is connected back to pin 3 signal negative
Section 3B Questions
1.
does negative connect to positive, or how is the diagram correctly read?
2.
is the ALPS 10k(total) potentiometer 5k total per channel?) or 10k total per per channel
i don't understand their meaning of "total".
∘ http://www.alps.com/prod/info/E/HTML/Potentiometer/RotaryPotentiometers/RK097/RK0971221Z05.htm
∘ RK09712200MC
3.
is positive common mode made before entering the dual gang potentiometer, or by way of the potentiometer (in it)?
4.
Is this dual-unit a 6 pin, a two-channel potentiometer, with 5 pins or a single channel potentiometer with 3 pins?
RK097 Series - Basic information
for example if this is a 6 pin potentiometer, then the common positive is split before connecting to the left and right channels of the potentiometer
and then common positive is rejoined after?
or by the unit itself?
All together, sorting through all of this, searching online and reading about resistors has made this seemingly simple matter, a challenge. But since i had seen it made no simpler before, i figure it was worth the effort to try to get to the bottom of this, myself to offer others a maybe simpler explanation, once I understand everything here
----------------
@ Mooly
My apologies, i didn't mean to disrespect the community rules, when I did not see my original post created, when it was approval, i figured i had incorrectly submitted the post, and went to create another, because i did not know of the approval processes. Thanks for being patient.
no problem- Status
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