Searching for a cable to be used with BNC connectors, but must have very good, double shielding to avoid EMI as well as mains ingress.
Hard to find anything specified to the shielding of cables.
Anyone has a tip?
Hard to find anything specified to the shielding of cables.
Anyone has a tip?
Hi Jan,
please try once JSSG shielding (John Swenson double shielding).
A truly remarkable idea indeed. With or without wire from one end to the other, whatever.
I use poor man system: the kitchen Alu foil and "PTFE tape" for water tube.
Extraordinary experience, from hifi system to HD TV power cable.
Does JSSG Really Work? Well here is an Actual Test - PC Audio and Music Servers • US Audio Mart
please try once JSSG shielding (John Swenson double shielding).
A truly remarkable idea indeed. With or without wire from one end to the other, whatever.
I use poor man system: the kitchen Alu foil and "PTFE tape" for water tube.
Extraordinary experience, from hifi system to HD TV power cable.
Does JSSG Really Work? Well here is an Actual Test - PC Audio and Music Servers • US Audio Mart
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The first hit Google gives me:
Does JSSG Really Work? Well here is an Actual Test - PC Audio and Music Servers • US Audio Mart
Not encouraging ...
Jan
Does JSSG Really Work? Well here is an Actual Test - PC Audio and Music Servers • US Audio Mart
Not encouraging ...
Jan
Searching for a cable to be used with BNC connectors, but must have very good, double shielding to avoid EMI as well as mains ingress.
Hard to find anything specified to the shielding of cables.
Anyone has a tip?
If you're using "triaxial cable" as search term, you'll get some, including the "usual suspects" like belden........
This one is quite good and not too thick
https://www.pasternack.com/images/ProductPDF/PE-C195.pdf
Unfortunately 50 Ohm means high capacitance
https://www.pasternack.com/images/ProductPDF/PE-C195.pdf
Unfortunately 50 Ohm means high capacitance
If you're using "triaxial cable" as search term, you'll get some, including the "usual suspects" like belden........
Jakob, I understand triax to be two conductors. I need a single inner conductor but double screened. Often there is an alu or copper tape screen covered with a braid.
Jan
This one is quite good and not too thick
https://www.pasternack.com/images/ProductPDF/PE-C195.pdf
Unfortunately 50 Ohm means high capacitance
Yes that looks good. I only need a couple of 1 foot cables so capacitance not a big deal. If I take 75 or 100 ohms, does that mean lower capacitance?
I need especially good mains and mains harmonic screening. Not sure if that is ever a concern for cable bakers.
Jan
Searching for a cable to be used with BNC connectors, but must have very good, double shielding to avoid EMI as well as mains ingress.
Hard to find anything specified to the shielding of cables.
Anyone has a tip?
I have some double-shield cable from a Hawker 800 nav rehab, and I know where to send it!
yes. 75 ohm is easy to find as are 75 ohm BNC connectors(*). 100 ohm? Doesn't exist I think. 93 ohm is possible to find.Yes that looks good. I only need a couple of 1 foot cables so capacitance not a big deal. If I take 75 or 100 ohms, does that mean lower capacitance?
Good BNCs are matched to a specific cable type as the centre connector has to fit the inner core.
Sorry Jan,
I was trying to find the original Swensons article but withput success. It was on AA forum, it seems to me. So I posted first one that was on "serach".
Main thing is that Swenson uses insulation between the two shilding layers.
I was trying to find the original Swensons article but withput success. It was on AA forum, it seems to me. So I posted first one that was on "serach".
Main thing is that Swenson uses insulation between the two shilding layers.
I read with considerable interest the Audiomart quote from John Swenson and subsequent posts testing his theory linked to above in RajkoM's first post. It's been my practice to use copper braid to double shield signal wiring, but I've always also installed a single drain wire connecting one end of the double shield to chassis ground (typically a star ground that connects to house mains ground). As best I can tell, none of the tests address whether attaching the shield to ground offers any benefit.
Does anyone have any experience or informed thoughts on this? If the shield drain wires offer little or no benefit, I'd be very pleased to omit them.
MTIA, Derek
Does anyone have any experience or informed thoughts on this? If the shield drain wires offer little or no benefit, I'd be very pleased to omit them.
MTIA, Derek
Cable shield is an extension of the equipment casing. To be effective at RF (not the OPs focus) the shield has to be 360 degrees around the connector. Connectors with a solder tag are rubbish at RF.
The best shielded coax cables are the semi-rigid types
The best shielded coax cables are the semi-rigid types
How do you plan to connect the shields?
P.S. I think "twinax" is the term for cable with two wires, one shield
P.S. I think "twinax" is the term for cable with two wires, one shield
This may be more expensive than you're looking for, but the following cable is sort of triple shielded. A copper foil shield with two OFC braid shields, 22awg solid core silver coductor:
Neotech NEVD-2001, Sonic Craft
It's somewhat challenging compared to other coax cables because it is so thick (8mm or 8.5mm with techflex). The only BNC that I know would fit would be the Oyaide:
Oyaide SLSB BNC Plugs - Set of 2 :782 Japan New 4562112764127 | eBay
The Oyaide are solid silver pin, but inside barrel is 9mm. Once again, this could be too expensive for what your looking for. Also, having an all silver conductor medium could be too much silver for your application.
Neotech NEVD-2001, Sonic Craft
It's somewhat challenging compared to other coax cables because it is so thick (8mm or 8.5mm with techflex). The only BNC that I know would fit would be the Oyaide:
Oyaide SLSB BNC Plugs - Set of 2 :782 Japan New 4562112764127 | eBay
The Oyaide are solid silver pin, but inside barrel is 9mm. Once again, this could be too expensive for what your looking for. Also, having an all silver conductor medium could be too much silver for your application.
Actually for just a few 50cm cables it is not unreasonable. I just asked them if they sell confectiuoned triax BNC-BNC cable.
Thanks for the tip, I know triax cable, just didn't remember the name ...
Jan
This may be more expensive than you're looking for, but the following cable is sort of triple shielded. A copper foil shield with two OFC braid shields, 22awg solid core silver coductor:
Neotech NEVD-2001, Sonic Craft
It's somewhat challenging compared to other coax cables because it is so thick (8mm or 8.5mm with techflex). The only BNC that I know would fit would be the Oyaide:
Oyaide SLSB BNC Plugs - Set of 2 :782 Japan New 4562112764127 | eBay
The Oyaide are solid silver pin, but inside barrel is 9mm. Once again, this could be too expensive for what your looking for. Also, having an all silver conductor medium could be too much silver for your application.
Good tip, thanks. Diameter of cable is an issue for short cables like I need for test equipment.
Those special BNCs look more like a fashion product to me, so I let that pass.
Jan
How do you plan to connect the shields?
P.S. I think "twinax" is the term for cable with two wires, one shield
With some ingenuity it should be possible to shove both shield on the BNC return barrel. But I asked them for manufactured cables, let them worry about it ;-)
Jan
PIC Wire 22089:
https://www.picwire.com/wp-content/uploads/files/pdfs/rfmates/PIC_S22089.pdf
It's stiffer than RG8/U, propagation factor 82.5, loss per 100m 7.2dB@400MHz (Better than RG11/U)
https://www.picwire.com/wp-content/uploads/files/pdfs/rfmates/PIC_S22089.pdf
https://www.picwire.com/wp-content/uploads/files/pdfs/rfmates/PIC_S22089.pdf
It's stiffer than RG8/U, propagation factor 82.5, loss per 100m 7.2dB@400MHz (Better than RG11/U)
https://www.picwire.com/wp-content/uploads/files/pdfs/rfmates/PIC_S22089.pdf
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